I get free charging at work! Help me find a PHEV
I get free charging at work! Help me find a PHEV
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ttonks93

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5 posts

36 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Just found out my company offers free charging with some newly installed chargers! So i am looking into PHEVs that i could use for my commute. My commute is 25 miles each way, if i could manage that on EV only and charge at either end that would be great.

German preferably
RWD
Not too fussed about anything else

I have been looking at F30 330E’s as i currently have a F30 330D and i could easily swap all my mods over.

What is the real world EV range on a 330E?

Is there anything in the Audi and Mercedes range with a 25 mile battery capacity?

Jamescrs

6,243 posts

92 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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A colleague of mine had a 330e f series, when new the range was 20 miles but by the time it was 3 years old it was closer to 12 miles in electric alone.

No ides if that is common or not for those cars its just one experience.

a311

6,344 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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You say 25 miles but what make up of roads? Although nippy lower down the electric motor supplies only 100 bhp on its own, so it's sloooooow accelerating from 40 upwards and will burn through the charge fairly rapido.

My Volvo PHEV it shows an indicated 25 miles on pure electric at this time of year and will drop to 21 in the winter. The newer generation manufacturer figures are double the range.

If you've free charging and access won't be a problem I.e. your work mates don't all have the same idea you may be better with an EV, do you have access to another car? If so a cheap Leaf, if not something decent on the premise you could charge it at work for personal use rather than just the commute.

blank

3,744 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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What's your budget?

What are the roads on the 25 miles? E.g. motorway at 70+ mph or town at 30?


25 miles is going to be tight for most PHEVs especially in the winter.

You'll probably want 15-20kWh usable battery to do it comfortably.

Merc C300e has a ~25kWh battery so should do it comfortably.

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h0b0

9,002 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo - 700hp with 30 mile range on battery

mikeyr

3,331 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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If it is free charging and no limit on amount I'd be tempted to go full on EV. Be free fuel for all your travels then. Although depends on how busy the chargers are likely to be, if heavily used might not even be worth it.

mikeyr

3,331 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Ahhh, just seen prices of 330e and hadn't realised they weren't newer cars. Won't get a RWD EV for those prices sadly!

Bannock

9,769 posts

57 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Vauxhall Ampera.

CG2020UK

2,932 posts

67 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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We have just took delivery of a brand new G21 BMW 330e Monday.

Realistically mileage is 28miles on electric only.

To be completely honest we both looked at each other after 80 miles on Monday and said we should have went full electric and got an I4 we are that impressed.

Deranged Rover

4,544 posts

101 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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I assume that your colleagues with proper cars are also being offered a petrol/diesel contribution? If not then your company is on dodgy territory regarding benefits in kind.

blank

3,744 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Deranged Rover said:
I assume that your colleagues with proper cars are also being offered a petrol/diesel contribution? If not then your company is on dodgy territory regarding benefits in kind.
No they're not.

Petrol/diesel is a taxable benefit in kind. If your employer gives you it for free then you pay tax on the cash value, assuming it's not for a company car, in which case it's a set amount based on the CO2 emissions of the car.

Electricity for EV/PHEV charging is not (currently) classed as a benefit in kind by HMRC so if the company wishes they can let people charge up for free and there is no BiK.

duff

1,045 posts

226 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Deranged Rover said:
I assume that your colleagues with proper cars are also being offered a petrol/diesel contribution? If not then your company is on dodgy territory regarding benefits in kind.
What is a “proper car” exactly?

We had this nonsense at one of my employers sites when they proposed getting some chargers installed. Owners of “proper” cars kicked off demanding petrol/diesel contributions so the whole thing got scrapped.

Deranged Rover

4,544 posts

101 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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duff said:
What is a “proper car” exactly?

We had this nonsense at one of my employers sites when they proposed getting some chargers installed. Owners of “proper” cars kicked off demanding petrol/diesel contributions so the whole thing got scrapped.
Quite right too. A handful of us at my own workplace raised similar objections when the same idea was mooted.

Deranged Rover

4,544 posts

101 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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blank said:
No they're not.

Petrol/diesel is a taxable benefit in kind. If your employer gives you it for free then you pay tax on the cash value, assuming it's not for a company car, in which case it's a set amount based on the CO2 emissions of the car.

Electricity for EV/PHEV charging is not (currently) classed as a benefit in kind by HMRC so if the company wishes they can let people charge up for free and there is no BiK.
Then I shall don my orthopaedic shoes and stand corrected!

I shall also let my accountant know she was talking piffle…