Help Me Make a Choice

Help Me Make a Choice

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Pilotguy

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433 posts

265 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Not my 320D yet, probably going to go for one of this pair, and the Portimao Blue is just ahead at the moment. Love the Mineral Grey as well, but is it a bit too SAFE/boring? Presently have a silver Mk3 Octavia vRS estate.

Both have almost exactly the same spec, same year, the blue one is just more than £1k cheaper, but has approx 10000 more miles on it. No discernible faults on either, BMW approved used. FBSH etc etc.





Edited by Pilotguy on Friday 14th July 14:12

Pilotguy

Original Poster:

433 posts

265 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Fresh update is that the dealership have painted the wheels black, in house. At a customer request, apparently , but they didn’t go through with the purchase! And the grey motor is sold, being collected at the end of July. I think it looks more basic, if they could paint them back to silver it would be better, but maybe I’ll get used to them. I can always get them painted back when I come to sell it. Bound to pick up some kerb scratches with the savage kerbs we have in Porthleven! Freshly painted wheels are a good thing though, I think 🤔
It looks fairly purposeful but maybe a bit aggressive.
Screen grab from a video the sales guy just took for me in the rain. I haven’t seen the car in the flesh yet.



Edited by Pilotguy on Friday 14th July 15:04

Funk

26,510 posts

215 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Oof, I'd have said the blue one until I saw the wheels. That'd be a deal-breaker for me. Can they put a set of grey (original) ones on it from another car rather than respraying the respray?

I can't stand black wheels on cars, they look st imo.

Edited by Funk on Friday 14th July 15:06

Pilotguy

Original Poster:

433 posts

265 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Funk, yes - that’s what I’m thinking. Potential dealbreaker. Wonder if the customer asked for them to be done in black and then went “Nah, looks naff now!” 😅

SteBrown91

2,522 posts

135 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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The original wheels are diamond cut not silver so the only way to return to original is to get them dipped, powdercoated, re-cut and laquered.

If they have been done inhouse its likely they have just been rubbed down and sprayed in the back of a van so give it a couple of years and they will look tired anyway.

d_a_n1979

9,422 posts

78 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Pilotguy said:
Fresh update is that the dealership have painted the wheels black, in house. At a customer request, apparently , but they didn’t go through with the purchase! And the grey motor is sold, being collected at the end of July. I think it looks more basic, if they could paint them back to silver it would be better, but maybe I’ll get used to them. I can always get them painted back when I come to sell it. Bound to pick up some kerb scratches with the savage kerbs we have in Porthleven! Freshly painted wheels are a good thing though, I think ??
It looks fairly purposeful but maybe a bit aggressive.
Screen grab from a video the sales guy just took for me in the rain. I haven’t seen the car in the flesh yet.



Edited by Pilotguy on Friday 14th July 15:04
Get them refurbed; sod getting them diamond cut, it'll only fail in 12months or so

Get the stripped back, powder-coated a bright silver and lacquered; they'll look spot on then smile

Black wheels work well; but on the right colour IMO - it has to be satin black though for me personally; I cannot stand gloss black; it's a stty finish & an absolute sod to keep clean

My F31 has OEM BMW Style 405Ms finished in OEM BMW satin black from factory; they work well with the silver car IMO




Much, much better than the gloss black 403Ms the car came on!

paradigital

950 posts

158 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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d_a_n1979 said:
The hovercar look always looks bad, some colours look less bad than others, but all are bad. Even moreso once the tyres lose their “fresh out of the mould” look and start to go off-brown.

Anthracite wheels can look good on a lot of colours, but black devoids the wheels of contrast, which looks awful. Infact, until the 2nd photo you can’t even tell what design your wheels are properly.

stevemcs

8,934 posts

99 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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I would say the blue one, but not with the black wheels. They need to be silver.

Mr Tidy

23,919 posts

133 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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I'd agree with what others have said. I much prefer the blue one, but not with black wheels!

Pilotguy

Original Poster:

433 posts

265 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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The grey one’s sold, so that’s out of the equation now anyway. The sales guy and his manager have declined to swap the wheels for ones in stock (as Funk suggested) on another car or from stock/spares etc.
I’ve replied back that if they can cut the price to bring me near what it will cost to have them refurbed, I might still have deal with them. Otherwise …

And I agree that I don’t like the sound of them doing the black paint job “in house” or “themselves” or whatever it was he said on the phone. They need replacing or properly refurbing.

Agree that diamond cutting is just a shortcut to problems again.

Geffg

1,221 posts

111 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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They’ve already paid to get them changed to black so for the sake of a sale you’d expect them to get them stripped and done silver. Have you asked them to spray them silver or back to original diamond cut? As will be cheaper to get them sprayed silver rather than diamond cut.
Or if you genuinely want the car as you’ve said see if they can knock a few quid off and get them done yourself if you cant live with them.
I’d never been a fan of black wheels and the car I have now I’d seen online and it’s silver with black wheels and I factored in paying to get them changed to silver but on seeing the car with the black wheels I loved it. They are gloss black and think it really suits and others have even commented on how they suit the car. Sometimes they look better in person than in pictures.


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Edited by Geffg on Friday 14th July 20:35

kiethton

14,025 posts

186 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Curve ball...how much is a set of standard wheels on eBay? Can swap the tyres and use those in the summer and the black abortions with winter tyres?

Court_S

13,815 posts

183 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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The blue one looked great until the wheels were painted black. That’s a colour that needs silver or possibly a pale anthracite.

d_a_n1979

9,422 posts

78 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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paradigital said:
d_a_n1979 said:
The hovercar look always looks bad, some colours look less bad than others, but all are bad. Even moreso once the tyres lose their “fresh out of the mould” look and start to go off-brown.

Anthracite wheels can look good on a lot of colours, but black devoids the wheels of contrast, which looks awful. Infact, until the 2nd photo you can’t even tell what design your wheels are properly.
Bless…

rottenegg

716 posts

69 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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I think black rims look OK on silver and red cars but blue, naaaah. There's no shortage of these cars, so keep on shoppin' smile

That said, if it's otherwise a decent example with a good spec, just get some OEM finish wheels from ebay. There's no shortage of those either!

Pilotguy

Original Poster:

433 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Geffg said:
They’ve already paid to get them changed to black so for the sake of a sale you’d expect them to get them stripped and done silver. Have you asked them to spray them silver or back to original diamond cut? As will be cheaper to get them sprayed silver rather than diamond cut.
Or if you genuinely want the car as you’ve said see if they can knock a few quid off and get them done yourself if you cant live with them.
I’d never been a fan of black wheels and the car I have now I’d seen online and it’s silver with black wheels and I factored in paying to get them changed to silver but on seeing the car with the black wheels I loved it. They are gloss black and think it really suits and others have even commented on how they suit the car. Sometimes they look better in person than in pictures.
I’ve emailed asking about him dropping slightly for me to have the wheels returned to silver, or whatever I feel like doing. They’ve communicated pretty quickly so far, so o guess I may hear back soon.

Otherwise I’ll move on. Searching is half the fun!

Pilotguy

Original Poster:

433 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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kiethton said:
Curve ball...how much is a set of standard wheels on eBay? Can swap the tyres and use those in the summer and the black abortions with winter tyres?
I’m not sure about how much a set would be. My garage is already bursting with sets of wheels though!

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d_a_n1979

9,422 posts

78 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Pilotguy said:
kiethton said:
Curve ball...how much is a set of standard wheels on eBay? Can swap the tyres and use those in the summer and the black abortions with winter tyres?
I’m not sure about how much a set would be. My garage is already bursting with sets of wheels though!

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You’ll soon find another set of wheels on eBay that you can have refurbed, shod with tyres and then fit to the car then sell the alloys that are on it currently, more so if the tyres are decent.

It took me all of 3 days to sell the 403Ms that came on my F31 with their Bridgestone RFTs

However, have you asked the dealer if they’ll refurb them back to silver (not diamond cut) for you?

Pilotguy

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433 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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d_a_n1979 said:
You’ll soon find another set of wheels on eBay that you can have refurbed, shod with tyres and then fit to the car then sell the alloys that are on it currently, more so if the tyres are decent.

It took me all of 3 days to sell the 403Ms that came on my F31 with their Bridgestone RFTs

However, have you asked the dealer if they’ll refurb them back to silver (not diamond cut) for you?
Yeah, that could definitely be an option, but I think I'd like the refurb done under my control to make sure I get the best possible job done. A place nearby has done sets for me in the past.

Another good shout on buying good used diamond cut or refurbed ones from the market and then selling the black ones with tyres. Let so done who likes them have the benefit.

Waiting to speak to the salesman today.

Few other of this spec in my half of the country. There's always click and collect though I suppose.

Pilotguy

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433 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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I love this Porsche silver colour. Think it would look mint against the blue.



Rather than original BMW Silver