no DRS, less regulations, choice of engines
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F1 is boring and predictable and overtakes do not have any value because of DRS. I think my political views are spilling in to my F1 beliefs. I would like to see F1 with less politics and less rules and regulations. A team could choose to use a v10 or a hybrid. A team could use a small and light car or a large heavy car. A team could use fuel pit stops or start with a heavy car full of fuel. I also think the cars should have no DRS, no Traction control and no power steering. Hopefully less regulations would mean more diverse cars and more interesting racing.
It would never happen, but an open wheel equivalent of Hypercar rules. Minimum and maximum dimensions, minimum weight, maximum power, a ratio of downforce to drag. Any engine, gearbox and hybrid system you want to get those power figures.
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Jumpingjackflash said:
F1 is boring and predictable and overtakes do not have any value because of DRS. I think my political views are spilling in to my F1 beliefs. I would like to see F1 with less politics and less rules and regulations. A team could choose to use a v10 or a hybrid. A team could use a small and light car or a large heavy car. A team could use fuel pit stops or start with a heavy car full of fuel. I also think the cars should have no DRS, no Traction control and no power steering. Hopefully less regulations would mean more diverse cars and more interesting racing.
Diversity won't lead to closer racing. Likely the opposite. The first season of open regs will see a widening of the grid as some teams head down blind alleys. The second year will see everyone following the path of the winner of the first year when the optimum configuration is shown. gt_12345 said:
I definitely think there should be multiple tyre suppliers
Why? What will that do for the racing?Either; one tyre will be better than the other and the half of the teams who chose the wrong one will be stuck on inferior tyres for a whole year, or they'll both be the same and nobody benefits so what's the point?
Nobody is allowed to test now so it will be pot luck which they get.
Marc p said:
There’s a few changes I’d personally like to see but my main one is around radio use, I’d feel it’d be better to ban all communications between team and driver bar hazard warnings or penalty info/requirements, so no telling drivers how to drive or when to pit.
They tried that, it was a disaster.If you are only interested in who whins, F1 is the wrong sport for you. There were close races at the front on occasion, but it was normally between two drivers in the same make of car: Hamilton/Rosberg, Senna/Prost.
The timing's never been closer. There is a 107% rule. Who remembers the last time that was used to exclude a driver?
We either have few overtakes or DRS. It's a simple choice. There have been GPs where, apart from the first couple of laps and unreliability, the only overtakes occurred when a car was in the pits.
The hybrid era has been a golden time for racing behind the dominant car.
The sprint race yesterday was a classic, yet the winner was only challenged up to the third corner. Through the field though, lots of fun, lots of excitement, yet someone posted on this thread that the sport was boring.
Tyres? Ah, yes, what could go wrong, other than a manufacturer favouring one team, to the extent of supplying a tyre that was 2 secs a lap faster, but keeping it for the favoured car. There were two races on track at the same time when two tyre suppliers were allowed.
It's mostly been tried before. The regs are a compromise.
The timing's never been closer. There is a 107% rule. Who remembers the last time that was used to exclude a driver?
We either have few overtakes or DRS. It's a simple choice. There have been GPs where, apart from the first couple of laps and unreliability, the only overtakes occurred when a car was in the pits.
The hybrid era has been a golden time for racing behind the dominant car.
The sprint race yesterday was a classic, yet the winner was only challenged up to the third corner. Through the field though, lots of fun, lots of excitement, yet someone posted on this thread that the sport was boring.
Tyres? Ah, yes, what could go wrong, other than a manufacturer favouring one team, to the extent of supplying a tyre that was 2 secs a lap faster, but keeping it for the favoured car. There were two races on track at the same time when two tyre suppliers were allowed.
It's mostly been tried before. The regs are a compromise.
Jumpingjackflash said:
F1 is boring and predictable and overtakes do not have any value because of DRS. I think my political views are spilling in to my F1 beliefs. I would like to see F1 with less politics and less rules and regulations. A team could choose to use a v10 or a hybrid. A team could use a small and light car or a large heavy car. A team could use fuel pit stops or start with a heavy car full of fuel. I also think the cars should have no DRS, no Traction control and no power steering. Hopefully less regulations would mean more diverse cars and more interesting racing.
Just where do you think they will source V10s? No manufacturer would go down this route, totally irrelevant to road cars.Refueling and two mandatory pit stops (whether mandated due to fuel tank size or use of tyre compunds)
Problem is that currently everyone holds station to avoid burning through their tyres rather than race for large portions of the race - whether the above suggestions would help or not is anyone's guess.
Problem is that currently everyone holds station to avoid burning through their tyres rather than race for large portions of the race - whether the above suggestions would help or not is anyone's guess.
Mr_Buller said:
Refueling and two mandatory pit stops (whether mandated due to fuel tank size or use of tyre compunds)
Problem is that currently everyone holds station to avoid burning through their tyres rather than race for large portions of the race - whether the above suggestions would help or not is anyone's guess.
Mandate that all three specs. of tyres must be used in the race. Problem is that currently everyone holds station to avoid burning through their tyres rather than race for large portions of the race - whether the above suggestions would help or not is anyone's guess.
Mr_Buller said:
Refueling and two mandatory pit stops (whether mandated due to fuel tank size or use of tyre compunds)
If they want to be relevant to road cars like the manufacturers claim they are then it should be in-race plugin battery charging while the driver has a coffee and completes a Sudoku.Multiple tyre suppliers just wouldn't work with the way things are these days. A driver wins he's not going to say it's because he had better tyres but he's certainly going to say that he lost because of inferior ones. Modern fans aren't going to deal with their favourite driver being at the back of the grid because his tyre supplier got it wrong for that race.
BoRED S2upid said:
All they need to do is leave them alone to race stop changing the rules every 5 minutes. The engineers will soon catch up with each other and have closer more exciting races.
Indeed so. Yes, it would be good if the cars could lose some weight, and perhaps expand the wind tunnel usage rules, but the field has never been tighter and the races more exciting on such a regular basis. We regularly see the first 15 or more cars covered by a second in qualifying, and the last five years have seen only a handful of properly dud races. The last regulation set, after six or seven years, was also pretty tight, even if the teams fell in an expected order.
The cost cap rules have also seen Mercedes and RB lose key staff to the smaller teams, with a lot of useful information in their heads, and the increased prize money will mean that all of the teams can operate at that cap in the next couple of years.
BoRED S2upid said:
All they need to do is leave them alone to race stop changing the rules every 5 minutes. The engineers will soon catch up with each other and have closer more exciting races.
Before the cost cap I would have agreed.But redbull are so far infront I doubt anyone will challenge them meaningfully until the next reg changes in 26.
We don't even know what performance is in that redbull as verstappen is cruising but I'd say it's easily a second but a lot more
Sandpit Steve said:
The cost cap rules have also seen Mercedes and RB lose key staff to the smaller teams, with a lot of useful information in their heads, and the increased prize money will mean that all of the teams can operate at that cap in the next couple of years.
The consequence of the cost cap is that it becomes harder to catch up to the dominant car because updates have become strategically planned. Is it any wonder why the budget cap was quickly passed? The likes of Toto and Christian knew it would keep the status quo for a given season and James Vowles is now having to plead poverty for help with capital expenditure so Williams can update it's infrastructure.SmoothCriminal said:
BoRED S2upid said:
All they need to do is leave them alone to race stop changing the rules every 5 minutes. The engineers will soon catch up with each other and have closer more exciting races.
Before the cost cap I would have agreed.But redbull are so far infront I doubt anyone will challenge them meaningfully until the next reg changes in 26.
We don't even know what performance is in that redbull as verstappen is cruising but I'd say it's easily a second but a lot more
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