Buying 200,000 mile car things to look out for
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As a general point the Euro 6 Mercedes diesels have significant issues with the adblue system, particularly tanks, pumps and NOx sensors, with parts being expensive and often on months back order.
Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
Monkeylegend said:
As a general point the Euro 6 Mercedes diesels have significant issues with the adblue system, particularly tanks, pumps and NOx sensors, with parts being expensive and often on months back order.
Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
If holed Mercedes will pay for a new subframe under goodwill, regardless of service history. Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
W201_190e said:
Monkeylegend said:
As a general point the Euro 6 Mercedes diesels have significant issues with the adblue system, particularly tanks, pumps and NOx sensors, with parts being expensive and often on months back order.
Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
If holed Mercedes will pay for a new subframe under goodwill, regardless of service history. Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
Monkeylegend said:
W201_190e said:
Monkeylegend said:
As a general point the Euro 6 Mercedes diesels have significant issues with the adblue system, particularly tanks, pumps and NOx sensors, with parts being expensive and often on months back order.
Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
If holed Mercedes will pay for a new subframe under goodwill, regardless of service history. Worth doing a bit of research before buying, there is plenty of info online on the Merc forums.
My older Euro 5 W212 is still going strong at 330k miles with it's current owner, with a full comprehensive service history being the key.
There is a catch again as they suffer from rear subframe corrosion issues, but the 2.2 litre diesel engine and 5g box are bullet proof if looked after.
The subframe issue is not a reason to discount one, get it cheap and take it to Mercedes. Simple
W201_190e said:
They are also replacing SBC pumps on the W211 E Class if they fail.
The subframe issue is not a reason to discount one, get it cheap and take it to Mercedes. Simple
The SBC pump FOC replacement stopped several years ago according to my Mercedes dealership.The subframe issue is not a reason to discount one, get it cheap and take it to Mercedes. Simple
As far as the rear subframe OP was asking what to look out for when buying.
If he was not aware and bought one one in a dangerous condition he could have the rear suspension collapsing at speed, not something you want to happen. Simple
Monkeylegend said:
The SBC pump FOC replacement stopped several years ago according to my Mercedes dealership.
As far as the rear subframe OP was asking what to look out for when buying.
If he was not aware and bought one one in a dangerous condition he could have the rear suspension collapsing at speed, not something you want to happen. Simple
Quite agree. However, MB definitely were replacing SBC pumps as recent as last year, FOC. They had to have failed though. As far as the rear subframe OP was asking what to look out for when buying.
If he was not aware and bought one one in a dangerous condition he could have the rear suspension collapsing at speed, not something you want to happen. Simple
The subframe issue should be resolved on a 2015/16 car, the earlier ones tended to suffer.
I replaced my 2005 S40 that was on 220K with a 2016 s212 estate that was on 90K a couple of years back..on 110K now and no issues other than parking sensors giving up and hose for rear air suspension (standard on estate) having rubbed through. Was a £50 quid fox that one at a back street garage.
Only thing I'd say is if you are getting a 212, make sure it's a late one as you can get car play / android auto enabled as per https://www.jamescooke.me.uk/automotive/w212-e-cla... Without it the infotainment is really clunky and dated.
I replaced my 2005 S40 that was on 220K with a 2016 s212 estate that was on 90K a couple of years back..on 110K now and no issues other than parking sensors giving up and hose for rear air suspension (standard on estate) having rubbed through. Was a £50 quid fox that one at a back street garage.
Only thing I'd say is if you are getting a 212, make sure it's a late one as you can get car play / android auto enabled as per https://www.jamescooke.me.uk/automotive/w212-e-cla... Without it the infotainment is really clunky and dated.
W201_190e said:
If holed Mercedes will pay for a new subframe under goodwill, regardless of service history.
Mercedes replaced the rear sub-frame on my old 2008 S204 FOC last year.Interestingly a class action was started in the US earlier this year regarding the sub-frame issue.
Volvo D5 engine is a great engine.
Not heard of any issues.
I've had 2 XC90 D5s (185bhp) and both went north of 100k miles with zero problems.
I also had a V60 D3 (5 cylinder 2.0l) and that was good to 150k miles before I sold it.
Cloth interior of the V60 wore better than the leather of the XC90s.
I cannot think of any issues with that car from 60k to 150k apart from the usual consumables.
Not heard of any issues.
I've had 2 XC90 D5s (185bhp) and both went north of 100k miles with zero problems.
I also had a V60 D3 (5 cylinder 2.0l) and that was good to 150k miles before I sold it.
Cloth interior of the V60 wore better than the leather of the XC90s.
I cannot think of any issues with that car from 60k to 150k apart from the usual consumables.
GreatGranny said:
Volvo D5 engine is a great engine.
Not heard of any issues.
I've had 2 XC90 D5s (185bhp) and both went north of 100k miles with zero problems.
I also had a V60 D3 (5 cylinder 2.0l) and that was good to 150k miles before I sold it.
Cloth interior of the V60 wore better than the leather of the XC90s.
I cannot think of any issues with that car from 60k to 150k apart from the usual consumables.
I have a V60 D5, 2011 model. Think it’s twin turbo. It’s a great car/engine. Not heard of any issues.
I've had 2 XC90 D5s (185bhp) and both went north of 100k miles with zero problems.
I also had a V60 D3 (5 cylinder 2.0l) and that was good to 150k miles before I sold it.
Cloth interior of the V60 wore better than the leather of the XC90s.
I cannot think of any issues with that car from 60k to 150k apart from the usual consumables.
The original ask was of >200k Mercedes Euro 6, 2015 onwards but think a lot of the comments relate to much older models. 200,000 miles is a a lot but of course it depends how it's covered them. Start in the morning and do a lengthy commute via motorway and park up for the day and then repeat is rather different from one that has got those miles as an Uber.
I once spent several years doing a horrid commute and added nearly 200k to a 3 series over 3 and a bit years. People say it but it drove like a significantly younger car. It then reverted to getting used for short across town journeys over the following few years and all the speedbumps, pot holes and stop start aged it.
I once spent several years doing a horrid commute and added nearly 200k to a 3 series over 3 and a bit years. People say it but it drove like a significantly younger car. It then reverted to getting used for short across town journeys over the following few years and all the speedbumps, pot holes and stop start aged it.
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