RE: Ferrari 308 GT4 | Spotted

RE: Ferrari 308 GT4 | Spotted

Monday 12th June 2023

Ferrari 308 GT4 | Spotted

The oft-forgotten Ferrari that, when you stop to think about it, has so many things going for it...


If you’re about to dismiss this Ferrari 308 GT4 thinking it doesn’t interest you one iota – it’s one of 'those poor man’s Ferraris' – I get that. And it might be because you’re like me. I was a wee lad in the ‘80s, and my bedroom wall was decorated with a picture of a Testarossa and a model of an F40. And then, in the ‘90s, I ogled Ferrari 355s and 550s on the road. All of these were very pretty – or at least striking in the case of the Testarossa and F40 – and all were Pininfarina designs.

The 308 GT4 was not a Pininfarina design, and it looked like it was from a different age to my eyes back then. Not a very good one, either, with its obviously ‘70s lines. That’s because it was the first Ferrari in decades not to be styled by Pininfarina, but by Bertone. Marcello Gandini was the stylist who did it, and he’d styled the Miura and the Countach – both very different-looking cars to the Ferraris that had been penned 11km away on the other side of Turin. That’s the only reason I can conjure as to why the GT4’s such a forgotten Ferrari, because in other respects it really shouldn’t be.

It was a seminal moment for Maranello and included some notable firsts. Not only was it the first Ferrari in decades to be styled by an entity other than Pininfarina, it was also the first mid-engine V8 Ferrari, and look what amazing cars that path has created since. That engine was the new, quad-cam, 2.9-litre V8, which nestled tightly in a transverse configuration just behind the cabin. And with four Weber DCNF carbs, it produced a very healthy 255hp. The chassis was basically a development of the Dino’s tubular spaceframe, but with some extra pipework to stretch it enough for a second pair of seats in the back.

This was an important move for Ferrari, because its rivals all had 2+2s among their ranges. Porsche, obviously, had the 911, Lamborghini had the Espada (also styled by Gandini), and Maserati has a history of 2+2s. Speaking of which, when I think of the Sebring I go a bit wobbly, but that was long gone by the time the GT4 was conceived. The Sebring's replacement was a less obvious beauty in the shape of the Indy. Anyway, the GT4’s importance to Maranello was underlined by claims that Enzo Ferrari himself took a direct interest in honing it. The rumour is that he had a mock-up of the GT4’s interior made, so he could sit in it and get elements of its driving position just right.

With its Dino underpinnings, the mid-engined layout and double wishbone suspension set-up had been given time to ripen. This is another reason why it’s odd that the GT4 isn’t revered. What’s underneath this went on to create the 308 GTB, which is celebrated the world over. And yet, with its longer wheelbase, it’s arguably the case that the GT4 handled and rode better than the 308. Does this back up my theory that it’s all about Pininfarina’s designs? After all, the 308 had been created by that design house and returned to swoops and curves. It probably helped also that it was seen on TV around the world, with certain private detective bombing about Hawaii in one – in what’s possibly the silliest P.I.’s car this side of an all-pink Phantom.

Personally, I think that the GT4’s styling has matured rather nicely. It’s one of those cars that in your head you dismiss at the first mention, then, one day you spot one and think, err, hang on a mo… No longer do I look at it and see a car that’s the ugly duckling of Ferraris. I see something that looks different and interesting compared with Maranello's other models, but with a hint of Series I Esprit at the front. The rear, with those delectable stainless quad exhausts jutting out, looks like it means business, too. Talking about business, I’ve never driven a GT4, but I understand it’s a mid-engine Ferrari that’s useable. It has a decent boot for this type of car, which makes it good for touring, and Bertone’s design used lots of glass, so you can actually see out of it. It’s also a car that someone taller, like me, could fit into.

The interior is amazing. The gated gear lever is traditional Ferrari, but the dashboard looks like a section was cut out of Control Room B at Battersea Power Station and dropped straight in. The mass of chrome-rimmed dials set into aluminium, with wings at either end that are angled towards the driver and filled with sliders and toggle switches, is all rather lovely.  As is the condition of this car’s interior. The advert says, ‘The car has been cherished by its fastidious owner(s) throughout its life and for the last 15+ years has resided with a long-standing customer of ours, the car has passed from father to daughter, both looking after the car admirably'. From the pictures it’s hard to disagree.

It's tempting to say that this is a great investment opportunity, but who knows where values will go in the future. £62,500 is certainly an awful lot less than you’ll pay for a Dino, mind, on which this car is based. It’s also cheaper than an equivalent 308, although not by nearly as much. If you have the money for this, you could certainly be considering both, and I think if you went for this GT4 rather than its more obvious cousin, I would have a good deal of respect for you. I wouldn’t have said that a few decades ago.


Specification | Ferrari 308 GT4

Engine: 2,927cc, V8, naturally aspirated
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 255 @ 7,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 209 @ 5,000rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 57,000
Year registered: 1978
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £62,500

See the original advert here

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RM

Original Poster:

651 posts

111 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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This is a great looking car, right up to the point that someone sits in the driver's seat. At which point the cab-forward design looks awful. Still want one though.

tomtom

4,226 posts

244 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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In before "I remember when they were £8k" posts

Although I came here to post exactly that. £62,500! I remember when they were £8k.

wpa1975

11,856 posts

128 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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tomtom said:
In before "I remember when they were £8k" posts

Although I came here to post exactly that. £62,500! I remember when they were £8k.
To be honest it is about the right money, they were rock bottom for a while but not anymore.

Very underrated car and the first V8 Ferrari made, sadly will always be overshadowed by the 308/328 and later cars.

youngsod

272 posts

196 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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That's a lovely colour scheme on that car, really suits it.

Olivera

8,090 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Is it just me that thinks these look... rubbish?

Dinoboy

2,572 posts

231 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Loved mine, they drive like a big go kart. Just make you smile every mile.

JJJ.

2,668 posts

29 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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255 bhp, really? I don't seem to recall even an early 308GTB having that much. Probably, acedemic anyway.

Regardless, the GT4 looks good and the colour suits it but it can't touch the older Dino in the looks department.



ArmaghMan

2,621 posts

194 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Olivera said:
Is it just me that thinks these look... rubbish?
No. Its not just you.

Puddenchucker

4,888 posts

232 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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JJJ. said:
255 bhp, really? I don't seem to recall even an early 308GTB having that much.
Original carburetor models had 255hp. The later fuel injected 308i versions dropped to 214hp. The final 308QV (4 valve) versions had 240hp.

wpa1975

11,856 posts

128 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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JJJ. said:
255 bhp, really? I don't seem to recall even an early 308GTB having that much. Probably, acedemic anyway.

Regardless, the GT4 looks good and the colour suits it but it can't touch the older Dino in the looks department.
255bhp was correct, early carb 308 GTB was the same power and engine, the injection cars dropped to 214bhp and the QV put it back up to 240bhp then the 328 saw around 270bhp

sideways man

1,503 posts

151 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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I was always a 308 fan when younger; but the last 10 years I’ve been a convert to the GT4. Remember having a tussle with one at a Combe track day; me in my Westfield.
And yes, I really should have got one when £12k got you a really nice one.

Pusikurac

121 posts

54 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Olivera said:
Is it just me that thinks these look... rubbish?
Not just you. Me too.
I think it looks awful.

Simoninspalding

131 posts

25 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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It always looked awkard to me, as did its successor the Mondial.

Feel free to burn me at the stake for this one (first comment too!) but the only Ferrari with more than 2 seats that looks any good is the Purosangue.

Gio G

2,987 posts

223 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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It is the one that got away for me. Back in 2004, I went to see a beautiful condition GT4 in red/tan up north, I think it was Nick Cartwright. Ready to do the deal that work, the wife informs me that child number 2 was on it's way.. Always had a soft spot for them.

G

mwyatt82

95 posts

137 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Remember when top gear magazine bought one of these for 17k back in 97 to see if you could get a good one for the same as a Mondeo. I seem to remember them being pretty mixed on it

Darnoc95

497 posts

44 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Even though its a 2+2 compared to more modern Ferrari's it is dainty. The packaging is excellent a 2+2 mid engine sports car with half decent boot & semi usable rear seats. Compared to my Evora its a tardis. Ive always loved these i know not as pretty as 308 & 328 but hey find another in this condition & right hand drive. In today's market i i think its a bit of a bargain.

BVB

1,153 posts

167 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Absolutely love it.

stavr0ss

249 posts

142 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Pusikurac said:
Olivera said:
Is it just me that thinks these look... rubbish?
Not just you. Me too.
I think it looks awful.
I’ll jump on this bandwagon. All of the wedge shaped designs leave me pretty cold, I was surprised to read this was bertone/gordini.
I love the curvy, organic lines of 60’s and 90’s car design, but the wedges, angles and boxes of the 70’s/80’s do nothing for me, might be a mid-80’s baby thing?

sean ie3

2,821 posts

150 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Looks decent IMO colour really suits the car, as far as 4 seat Ferrari goes, the Purosangue is not good looking so an FF would be the money.

wpa1975

11,856 posts

128 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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mwyatt82 said:
Remember when top gear magazine bought one of these for 17k back in 97 to see if you could get a good one for the same as a Mondeo. I seem to remember them being pretty mixed on it
I remember wheeler dealers buying one in 2009 for £8750 and selling it for £13k when finished.