RE: 2023 Abarth 500e | PH Review

RE: 2023 Abarth 500e | PH Review

Tuesday 23rd May 2023

2023 Abarth 500e | PH Review

If you're after an electric hot hatch, is the new Abarth 500e the answer? Well, no - but it's still very good...


Bearing in mind this world is no picnic for any of us at the moment, you might not be ready to spare much of a thought for the plight of the automotive engineer. I think you should, though. And it’s those charged with creating the new breed of small, electric hot hatches that I worry about the most – a task I wouldn’t want for all the tea in China.

There was a time when Mr Hot Hatch Engineer had an easy life. Turn up to work, find a humdrum hatchback, open a drawer marked ‘Tasty cams,’ the one next to it containing all the ‘closer-stacked ratios,’ dig out some stiffer springs, give the turbo a tweak with a screwdriver, and Bob’s you uncle. All that remained was a holla to the boss saying: That’s a wrap, sir.

You’re probably thinking they have it even easier these days. The lazy gits don’t even have to change any parts to make a hot version of an EV – simply plug in a laptop and flick the setting marked ‘Hot Hatch: Version 2.0,’ and head to the canteen for a cup of tea. I’m not saying that doesn’t happen, but only if the base car has enough spare capacity in its battery to supply the extra power, while still leaving enough on the table for a decent range.

But that’s not the case with the Fiat 500e. So when Abarth looked at making a hottie out of the teeny tiny 500e, what to do? Talking to the engineers, not a lot, other than juggle with a whole bunch of hellish-sounding compromises concerning the hardware they had.

Think about it this way. If they stuck a much more powerful motor in the Abarth, that would drain the battery quicker. And when the Fiat 500e’s range is only 200 miles to begin with, you don’t really want it to be much less. To add more power, then, would also mean a bigger battery than the standard car’s 42kWh battery, but where do you make room for that? The 500e is a city car, remember. If they made the back seats or the boot any smaller they’d run the risk of it ending up in group test with a Porsche Cayman, with someone mistakenly thinking this was a new two-door, two-seat sports car. I’m exaggerating, of course, but hopefully you get my point.

Even if, by some miracle, you could make the battery bigger without compromising the space on board, you’d still be left with problems. A bigger battery means more weight, obviously, which means it would need more power just to negate the extra mass. And that would mean some of the precious extra capacity of the bigger battery is eaten up by the extra power required simply to move it along, even before they’ve made the car go any faster. Once that conundrum has been dealt with, there are all the other associated issues: extra weight makes the handling blunter and the ride harder. It would need bigger brakes, too, to stop the thing. That’s yet more weight, and so it goes on. This is basically an automotive vicious circle.

With all that in mind, you might be expecting the guys at Abarth to be quite haggard looking, but no, that’s not the case. They seemed remarkably perky, all things considered, and they explained why. It turns out they've been realistic. They didn’t consider a bigger battery at all. That simply wasn’t possible. Maybe as the technology improves, and they can get more kWhs out of a given physical size, but that’s for another day. They accepted, then, that they couldn’t add a more powerful motor, and the only extra power would have to come from being clever. They made the electric drivetrain more efficient by removing some of the losses in the system, and that’s gained an extra 35hp and 11lb ft. In total, the Abarth 500e has 153hp and 173lb ft. The range is less as a result, but at 164 miles it's still just about acceptable for a city car.

Now, those outputs are less than the petrol Abarth 695 musters, so the 500e is slower from 0-62mph with a time of 7.0 seconds. But instead of fretting about that, they decided to focus on what’s important to a typical hot-city-car driver. The acceleration between 25-37mph, for instance, which is a second quicker than the ICE model. Some of that comes from the instant hit of motor torque, but also because they tweaked the final drive over the regular Fiat 500e to 10.2:1.

They also wanted to do something about noise, because as far as the Fiat 500e goes, there isn’t any. The 695, on the other hand, is very noisy, which is all part of its appeal, so they sampled that and stuck a sound generator in the boot of the Abarth 500e to reproduce it. It doesn’t just make noise in the car, it broadcasts it to innocent bystanders, too, and from outside it’s quite convincing. Less so inside, especially because there are no gears. It’s just a continuous sound that increases in pitch with the road speed, so at 70mph it’s quite a drone. It’s fun for a while but at a cruise you’ll want to turn it off, which is not easy. Instead of a simple switch to knock it on or off, you have to delve into the menus on the digital instrument binnacle, which is all rather a faff. And you can only do this when the car’s stopped, which is just stupid.

In other respects, though, the Abarth 500e is very good. I drove it around Balocco, which is Fiat’s test track outside Milan, and I had the opportunity to back-to-back it against the 695. Now, the 695 is more exciting and definitely more of a hot hatch. Its exhaust bark is real and rabid, its suspension stiff – enough for some mega lift-off oversteer on the wet track – and it’s noticeably quicker once you're past 50mph. But despite all that, the Abarth 500e felt like it was the faster car round a lap. For a start, it produces more grip from its Bridgestone Potenza Sport tyres and also has a better 57:43 weight distribution. And while the suspension is stiffer than the Fiat version, it’s softer than the 695 so it rolls a little more, which makes it a lot less spiky in the wet than the petrol car and therefore much easier to be consistent around the lap. There's a nice neutrality about it's cornering, with the ability to trim your line by backing off the accelerator instead of finding yourself trimming a hedge as you disappear backwards through it.

Out on the road, it works much better than the 695. Without the sound generator on, it’s very quiet and even manages to suppress wind and road noise to an acceptable degree. Its softer, less reactive suspension does a fine job of soaking up bumps as well – to the point that I’d describe the Abarth 500e as comfortable. It’s still a city car with a relatively short wheelbase, so there’s some of fidget on rippled surfaces, but it deals with potholes very well and, thanks to well-judged damping, it stays settled though bends despite any surface unevenness.

Speaking of bends, I like the steering, too. It’s quite measured over the first few degrees of turn, so isn’t too darty, but ramps up after that so you can get the nose turned in eagerly. It’s a shame that the only way to switch off the one-pedal braking mode, which makes it hard to be smooth through corners, is by switching to Scorpion Track – the most aggressive of its three driving modes. That adds a bit too much heft to the steering (I preferred the lighter feel of it in Scorpion Street or Turismo), but the weight build up is still progressive and some sense of the road surface reaches your fingertips. One-pedal mode aside, the brakes are easy to modulate, too, so you can slow the 500e with a degree of finesse that's not guaranteed with an electric car.

Is it fast? Well, not to the point of being truly grin-inducing, but I'd say it’s fast enough. And the way it punches out of corners makes it feel livelier than that seven-second-to-sixty-two time would suggest. It’s certainly got enough low-down poke to break traction easily on greasy roads, so you need to think about your accelerator inputs out of hairpins or from a standing start.

Is the Abarth 500e a great hot hatch, then? No, and it is a warning that developing the next generation of hot hatches is going to be a struggle for manufacturers – at least those with the constraints of hardware and a small budget to consider. We have become used to electric cars being quicker than internal-combustion equivalents – it’s almost the default – but that’s only the case when there’s spare capacity in the base car, or you’re building a bespoke performance car from scratch. It seems it's a real challenge when that's not the case.

I do think the Abarth 500e is a fine car, though. It rides and handles in a far more grown-up manner than the 695. Sure, the 695 is more exciting for an hour’s blast, but, let’s face it, it’s a deeply flawed package otherwise. The Abarth 500e is so much better resolved – to the point it’s almost incomparable – and I'm not just talking about how it drives. I’m talking also about the interior quality, the infotainment system and the driving position. The 695 is so heavily compromised by its high seating position and lack of reach adjustment for the steering, yet I felt perfectly comfortable in the 500e. It’s no longer a car you have to endure during day-to-day duties. But in terms of an exciting electric hot hatch, we’re going to have to wait a bit longer. Think of the Abarth 500e as more of a hot trim grade than a hot hatch, and then you won’t feel short-changed. I reckon that deep down Abarth knows that's what it’s built, which is why the Abarth 500e starts at £34,195 – the same price as the Fiat 500e in its top trim. And given the choice, I would have the Abarth version every time.


SPECIFICATION | Abarth 500e

Engine: permanent magnet single electric motor
Transmission: one-speed auto, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 155
Torque (lb ft): 173
0-62mph: 7.0 seconds
Top speed: 96mph
Weight: 1,410kg
Battery size: 42.2kWh (37.3kWh usable)
Charging: 85kW DC/ 0-80% 35 mins
Efficiency: 3.65 miles/ kWh
Electric range: 164 miles (WLTP)
Price: £34,195

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Frimley111R

Original Poster:

15,833 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Whilst making it electric changes it significantly from anything that has gone before I think FIAT has to be applauded for being the first one to make a 'new world' hot hatch. It looks good, is quick and has that engine noise for added theatre.

curvature

420 posts

79 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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That does look like a fun little car but as I was quickly reading the article I guessed in my head at £25k but close to £35k!

You would have to really want one for that money.

The interior is great.

biggbn

24,577 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Cracking thing!!

flukey5

405 posts

65 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Ah yes, basically the same price as a new Audi TT. Am I going to buy an Abarth 500e?

No.

Are people really dumb enough to accept this is the price of an A-segment hatchback now? It can't even drive from London to Birmingham without recharging and the TT makes real exhaust sounds.




Edited by flukey5 on Monday 22 May 12:38

AKjr

482 posts

16 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I love it, but that range will plummet in the real world, leaving this as not much more than a very expensive city car, which is going to be a problem I think

It's damned cool, though cool

Pereldh

563 posts

117 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Excpect a software update from Fiat/Abarth in 9,8,7,6.. 5...4... 3..

Julian Scott

3,216 posts

29 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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flukey5 said:
Ah yes, basically the same price as a new Audi TT. Am I going to buy an Abarth 500e?

No.

Are people really dumb enough to accept this is the price of an A-segment hatchback now? It can't even drive from London to Birmingham without recharging and the TT makes real exhaust sounds.




Edited by flukey5 on Monday 22 May 12:38
Are people really dumb enough to buy a city car if they know they sometimes need to drive from London to Birmingham?

Next in the series. New McLaren is crap at taking family on 2 week camping holiday.

Julian Scott

3,216 posts

29 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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curvature said:
That does look like a fun little car but as I was quickly reading the article I guessed in my head at £25k but close to £35k!

You would have to really want one for that money.

The interior is great.
Welcome to 2023, not 2013.

The bargain basement Dacia from last week is what £25k gets you.

Pumpsmynads

273 posts

161 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Frimley111R said:
Whilst making it electric changes it significantly from anything that has gone before I think FIAT has to be applauded for being the first one to make a 'new world' hot hatch. It looks good, is quick and has that engine noise for added theatre.
The first one? The mini has been out for years.

Julian Scott

3,216 posts

29 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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AKjr said:
I love it, but that range will plummet in the real world, leaving this as not much more than a very expensive city car, which is going to be a problem I think

It's damned cool, though cool
City Car criticised for being a City Car? readit


Julian Scott

3,216 posts

29 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Pumpsmynads said:
Frimley111R said:
Whilst making it electric changes it significantly from anything that has gone before I think FIAT has to be applauded for being the first one to make a 'new world' hot hatch. It looks good, is quick and has that engine noise for added theatre.
The first one? The mini has been out for years.
The standard 500e is more of a 'Mini' than the MINI EV. Which I guess is a little awkward.

flukey5

405 posts

65 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Julian Scott said:
flukey5 said:
Ah yes, basically the same price as a new Audi TT. Am I going to buy an Abarth 500e?

No.

Are people really dumb enough to accept this is the price of an A-segment hatchback now? It can't even drive from London to Birmingham without recharging and the TT makes real exhaust sounds.




Edited by flukey5 on Monday 22 May 12:38
Are people really dumb enough to buy a city car if they know they sometimes need to drive from London to Birmingham?

Next in the series. New McLaren is crap at taking family on 2 week camping holiday.
Thing is, I have a memory of when a city car could do the few times a year trip to the inlaws with ease. Now we have to accept that our cars are going to cost more and do less? Did everyone just eat a fat slice of marketing pie and forget this is a step backwards, or are we meant to be ok with it because "oh its a city car thats what they do now"

A japanese kei car arguably is more efficient in material cost and has more utility than this ever will.

Ray_Aber

534 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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"Once your past 50..."

err, "you're"....

Grammar is the difference between knowing your st and knowing you're st...


JerryF

288 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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What is the justification of buying this? Buy a MINI EV instead, larger, more hp and more fun.

Numpty with honours

209 posts

88 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I bought in 2020 a Honda E and bizarrely have never touched the "B" trip meter. I have done 31,700 miles in it and the long term average is 3.4 miles per KW

Therefore, as the fiat has 37.3 kWh usable, this might indicate a real range of 127 miles before weight of the car is taken into account - HOWEVER the fiat weighs in at 1,410 kg whereas the Honda E weighs in at 1,588

So the real range on average may be around 140 miles


J4CKO

42,426 posts

205 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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flukey5 said:
Julian Scott said:
flukey5 said:
Ah yes, basically the same price as a new Audi TT. Am I going to buy an Abarth 500e?

No.

Are people really dumb enough to accept this is the price of an A-segment hatchback now? It can't even drive from London to Birmingham without recharging and the TT makes real exhaust sounds.




Edited by flukey5 on Monday 22 May 12:38
Are people really dumb enough to buy a city car if they know they sometimes need to drive from London to Birmingham?

Next in the series. New McLaren is crap at taking family on 2 week camping holiday.
Thing is, I have a memory of when a city car could do the few times a year trip to the inlaws with ease. Now we have to accept that our cars are going to cost more and do less? Did everyone just eat a fat slice of marketing pie and forget this is a step backwards, or are we meant to be ok with it because "oh its a city car thats what they do now"

A japanese kei car arguably is more efficient in material cost and has more utility than this ever will.
I do agree, but we have to remember its early days yet, and we still have, and will do for a good while a choice, and hopefully before the ICE cars start dwindling the range will have improved.

Batteries densities are improving but 164 miles isnt enough for anything that is used beyond local running, especially as range can take a hit on a long run, and even more so if its cold. Obviously it hinges on finding somewhere to recharge so its still possible but its adding in factors we didnt really worry about previously.


I could manage fine with one of these most of the time, got to go to Bath in two weeks, from Manchester so it wouldnt do that in one go, we invariably stop anyway but would be a longer stop and relies on finding a suitable charger thats working.

I suspect all this will become a non issue in years to come though, or certainly a much smaller one.

As for this, dont mind it, probably all the car I need most of the time.


kuiper

208 posts

132 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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flukey5 said:
Thing is, I have a memory of when a city car could do the few times a year trip to the inlaws with ease. Now we have to accept that our cars are going to cost more and do less? Did everyone just eat a fat slice of marketing pie and forget this is a step backwards, or are we meant to be ok with it because "oh its a city car thats what they do now"

A japanese kei car arguably is more efficient in material cost and has more utility than this ever will.
Yep, this. A 'city car' is just a small normal car. It may not need to go London to Birmingham on a daily basis, but if called on to do so there's no reason it shouldn't. Of course if you were doing that trip all the time then you might want something bigger for the comfort offered, but currently small cars can/do/should be able to handle that sort of journey with no sweat - it's part of the joy of the utility of them. We're being asked to swallow a backstep in useability here, pay more for it, and somehow that's good?

Nobody is buying a Mclaren to occasionally take the family on a camping holiday. Plenty of people do and always have bought small city cars with the assumption they'll occasionally go camping in them, or take a long trip, or do lots of things with them beyond 'drive a couple of miles specifically within the confines of the city limits'.

Slowlygettingit

704 posts

46 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Like the colour……. (On my laptop but less so on the phone)
Don’t like sound generators - would turn that off on day 1


ntiz

2,395 posts

141 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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flukey5 said:
Thing is, I have a memory of when a city car could do the few times a year trip to the inlaws with ease. Now we have to accept that our cars are going to cost more and do less? Did everyone just eat a fat slice of marketing pie and forget this is a step backwards, or are we meant to be ok with it because "oh its a city car thats what they do now"

A japanese kei car arguably is more efficient in material cost and has more utility than this ever will.
I worry for young people.

Everyone bought a city car as their first car when I was late teens. We went everywhere in them!! Me and my mates in Minis, Polos, Fiat 500, etc went all over the UK surfing, partying, gigs, mountain biking, skiing etc. So many of my best memories involved random questions like do you reckon there are any tickets for the F1 at Spa tomorrow? Boom and so begins the over night rally to Spa in convoy.

I stuck a roof rack on my Gen 2 mini one, drove all over Europe ski racing for a year. Would sit at 90 all day on the motorway and was hoot on the mountain roads. Something like this will be struggling to scrape 80 miles at that kind of speed.

Will something like this afford the same freedom spontaneity as I had? It doesn't seem like it.

Jon_S_Rally

3,586 posts

93 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I think it looks pretty good aside from the grills in the bumper. I don't understand why some manufacturers are making grills body-coloured. It really doesn't look good and reminds me of a car owned by an old fella who has bought some spray paint from Halfords and been messing about.

It sounds like this isn't a bad drive, though the sound generator can get in the bin. Trying to make an EV sound like it has a petrol engine is a bit tragic. I do fear for the future of the hot hatch though. I think we need a decent step in battery tech if we're going to achieve a decent balance of range vs. performance - even more so if we want them to be affordable too.