How long before an ex-lease comes to market?
How long before an ex-lease comes to market?
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TheDrownedApe

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1,711 posts

83 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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So handed my iD3 back on 14 April and I am just curious to see what it's advertised for after my "offer" from VWFS.

Just looked for the car on autotrader with no luck. Checked it's tax status and is showing as untaxed since 18 April.

Is it usual for a car to spend this long off the market?




SkodaIan

989 posts

112 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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A month isn't very long, and also not every secondhand car is advertised on Autotrader. It won't be taxed if its up for sale, but will need MOTd if it's old enough.

I too like to try to find out what my old cars go up for sale just for interest in what a good or bad deal I got for it. I've come across all but of them eventually (try a Google search of the numberplate - both the text and image search sometimes find it).
I've no idea what happened to the other car, which has never been MOTd or taxed since we got rid of it. It was unlikely to have been scrapped given it wasn't that old and we got several thousand for it, so it must either have been exported or perhaps it fell off the transporter and got written off while not on the road.....

sunnyb13

1,202 posts

65 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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whats the number plate?

TheDrownedApe

Original Poster:

1,711 posts

83 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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BP70JKZ

Sheepshanks

40,426 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
Is it usual for a car to spend this long off the market?
I recall stories from when cars where in plentiful supply of ex-lease cars being stockpiled on airfields and gradually released to the market over many monhts. As used EV prices have been dropping maybe the same is happening to them now?

Danm1les

1,005 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I think my last 2 lease cars took 6-8 weeks to appear, my brother had a 500 on lease and it was list at Car Giant within the week.

Jonno02

2,262 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Couple of weeks normally.

One of my lease cars was ‘already sold’ when it was collected and was listed only a few days later.

Edible Roadkill

2,227 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Followed my last lease through bca to retail and it took around 6 weeks all in.

TheDrownedApe

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1,711 posts

83 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
I recall stories from when cars where in plentiful supply of ex-lease cars being stockpiled on airfields and gradually released to the market over many monhts. As used EV prices have been dropping maybe the same is happening to them now?
Still not for sale and showing as untaxed, guess you are right and VWFS are stockpiling it.

the-norseman

15,548 posts

198 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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There was a lot of VW group cars dumped at Peterborough showground last time I was there, some were ex press but most were ex lease.

Auto810graphy

1,611 posts

119 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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Every funder has different processes at end of contract but they do try and control supply so they don’t hit values.

VWFS are one of the slowest to dispose of return cars where as Lex Autolease normally shift them quite quickly.

An example is ALD had a deal on launch spec Polestars in October 2020 and cars that went back in September/ October 2022 have not been disposed of yet and are probably now worth about £15k less.


Geffg

1,337 posts

132 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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One of mine went to auction about a month or so after it went back.
Your offer from vwfs, is the final payment usually negotiable?

dci

656 posts

168 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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TheDrownedApe

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1,711 posts

83 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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dci said:
Nice find. hadn't done a reg search in a couple of weeks. Thanks

They offered it to me for £25499 back in April and there was no negotiation. Seems i was wise to say no (or they were foolish to not offer a competitive price).

TheDrownedApe

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1,711 posts

83 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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Auto810graphy said:
Every funder has different processes at end of contract but they do try and control supply so they don’t hit values.

VWFS are one of the slowest to dispose of return cars where as Lex Autolease normally shift them quite quickly.

An example is ALD had a deal on launch spec Polestars in October 2020 and cars that went back in September/ October 2022 have not been disposed of yet and are probably now worth about £15k less.
if those were lease it would seem that most decided to extend their lease as the current climate is nowhere near what it was and they might come up this oct/Nov...unless you know they were returned.

Auto810graphy

1,611 posts

119 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
if those were lease it would seem that most decided to extend their lease as the current climate is nowhere near what it was and they might come up this oct/Nov...unless you know they were returned.
We returned a couple of them, can only think ALD and Polestar had an agreement to prevent flooding the market as I recall there were about 400 cars on the original promotion (spread over 2-4 year contracts).

RayDonovan

5,734 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
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Alphabet / BCA seem to be trying to control the market to some extent. We've returned over half a dozen cars recently to them and none have made a forecourt yet (I returned an Arteon in March and it's still not appeared).

One car was 'returned' in March and they've not even bothered to collect it from the office, strange.