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As mentioned on another thread, the only car I regret selling is my M5C. It took approximately two weeks for the regret to set in, though.
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
SmithCorona said:
As mentioned on another thread, the only car I regret selling is my M5C. It took approximately two weeks for the regret to set in, though.
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
Just a change and down sizing , you may well be right and regret could cost me dear.What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
I can't see how the swap would not be a disappointment.
You might be able to convince yourself that the M3 is a better car for a while...but it isn't.
True it has ultimately an ability to take corners slightly faster but when was the last time you pushed your M5 to the limit?
The M5 already has high levels of grip adding a bit more isn't going to make up for the M3s other deficiencies.
If the itch to change the M5 is strong then there are surely better cars than the M3 that wouldn't disappoint.
You might be able to convince yourself that the M3 is a better car for a while...but it isn't.
True it has ultimately an ability to take corners slightly faster but when was the last time you pushed your M5 to the limit?
The M5 already has high levels of grip adding a bit more isn't going to make up for the M3s other deficiencies.
If the itch to change the M5 is strong then there are surely better cars than the M3 that wouldn't disappoint.
Max Maxasson said:
I can't see how the swap would not be a disappointment.
You might be able to convince yourself that the M3 is a better car for a while...but it isn't.
True it has ultimately an ability to take corners slightly faster but when was the last time you pushed your M5 to the limit?
The M5 already has high levels of grip adding a bit more isn't going to make up for the M3s other deficiencies.
If the itch to change the M5 is strong then there are surely better cars than the M3 that wouldn't disappoint.
Wise words have to see what this test drive brings.You might be able to convince yourself that the M3 is a better car for a while...but it isn't.
True it has ultimately an ability to take corners slightly faster but when was the last time you pushed your M5 to the limit?
The M5 already has high levels of grip adding a bit more isn't going to make up for the M3s other deficiencies.
If the itch to change the M5 is strong then there are surely better cars than the M3 that wouldn't disappoint.
I recall going from a trio of M3s to an M5 and then back to an M3 (M5 and then the M3 after were F chassis models) the M3 was a better car for me than the M5, sharper, more agile and biddable down your favourite road I felt I got more out of it as an experience to drive.
As the G chassis cars are a step on in every area from the F chassis (I also had an X3M with the S58) I would imagine the difference remains the same, power/torque at this level doesn't really come into it as both have way more performance than you can use, so it has to come down to the feel/looks/drive and depending on your view you decide.
Wills2 said:
I recall going from a trio of M3s to an M5 and then back to an M3 (M5 and then the M3 after were F chassis models) the M3 was a better car for me than the M5, sharper, more agile and biddable down your favourite road I felt I got more out of it as an experience to drive.
As the G chassis cars are a step on in every area from the F chassis (I also had an X3M with the S58) I would imagine the difference remains the same, power/torque at this level doesn't really come into it as both have way more performance than you can use, so it has to come down to the feel/looks/drive and depending on your view you decide.
Thanks.As the G chassis cars are a step on in every area from the F chassis (I also had an X3M with the S58) I would imagine the difference remains the same, power/torque at this level doesn't really come into it as both have way more performance than you can use, so it has to come down to the feel/looks/drive and depending on your view you decide.
SmithCorona said:
As mentioned on another thread, the only car I regret selling is my M5C. It took approximately two weeks for the regret to set in, though.
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
Not quite that straightforward though I don't think. If you don't need the size of the M5 I think the M3 will definitely be the better steer. The latest M3/4 chassis is very, very good and will definitely feel sharper than the M5 to drive, whilst still offering 4 door capability and it's most definitely not lacking in straight line performance.What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
E90_M3Ross said:
SmithCorona said:
As mentioned on another thread, the only car I regret selling is my M5C. It took approximately two weeks for the regret to set in, though.
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
Not quite that straightforward though I don't think. If you don't need the size of the M5 I think the M3 will definitely be the better steer. The latest M3/4 chassis is very, very good and will definitely feel sharper than the M5 to drive, whilst still offering 4 door capability and it's most definitely not lacking in straight line performance.What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
garystoybox said:
E90_M3Ross said:
SmithCorona said:
As mentioned on another thread, the only car I regret selling is my M5C. It took approximately two weeks for the regret to set in, though.
What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
Not quite that straightforward though I don't think. If you don't need the size of the M5 I think the M3 will definitely be the better steer. The latest M3/4 chassis is very, very good and will definitely feel sharper than the M5 to drive, whilst still offering 4 door capability and it's most definitely not lacking in straight line performance.What appeals about the M3?
I can understand a change to a convertible, or a sports car, but a smaller, less powerful and less plush version of a BMW? It may handle better, and have great rear arches, but it's not an M5. And you'll have to change your user name...
@JMBMWM5, knowing how you've loved the M5, I'll be really interested to learn what you think!
Skrambles said:
Bang on! I've been debating whether to change my F10 for the current M5 or downsize to a new M3/4 (my last was an e46) for a change of daily drive, but the M5 has always felt like such a massive step up from the smaller M that I reckon I'd probably feel the urge to change from the M3/4 back up to M5 pretty sharpish (at silly cost).
@JMBMWM5, knowing how you've loved the M5, I'll be really interested to learn what you think!
It seems every time I take the family out in it they are on edge, it's so fast and can handle it, THEY feel I can't and unless I drive like miss daisy with them in it, it stays in the Garage.@JMBMWM5, knowing how you've loved the M5, I'll be really interested to learn what you think!
IF I feel the M3 is a massive downgrade I will just keep it and to hell with it.
JMBMWM5 said:
t seems every time I take the family out in it they are on edge, it's so fast and can handle it, THEY feel I can't and unless I drive like miss daisy with them in it, it stays in the Garage.
IF I feel the M3 is a massive downgrade I will just keep it and to hell with it.
I tend to drive very conservatively when I have passengers in the M5 with me. Mostly because its usually family and I don't take any chances with them in the car....and partly I'm a terrible passenger if I'm driven at all fast, so I can sympathise with passengers getting nervous especially as the M5 is so bonkers fast.IF I feel the M3 is a massive downgrade I will just keep it and to hell with it.
But even driven "normally" the M5 is still a fun car to drive....I'm on nearly 40,000 miles in mine and looking forward to a roadtrip to France in a weeks time.
After ~ 4 years of ownership I'd usually be already looking at changing my car but I can't think of any other car than does everything so well.
I might just keep this one till it falls apart.
Max Maxasson said:
JMBMWM5 said:
t seems every time I take the family out in it they are on edge, it's so fast and can handle it, THEY feel I can't and unless I drive like miss daisy with them in it, it stays in the Garage.
IF I feel the M3 is a massive downgrade I will just keep it and to hell with it.
I tend to drive very conservatively when I have passengers in the M5 with me. Mostly because its usually family and I don't take any chances with them in the car....and partly I'm a terrible passenger if I'm driven at all fast, so I can sympathise with passengers getting nervous especially as the M5 is so bonkers fast.IF I feel the M3 is a massive downgrade I will just keep it and to hell with it.
But even driven "normally" the M5 is still a fun car to drive....I'm on nearly 40,000 miles in mine and looking forward to a roadtrip to France in a weeks time.
After ~ 4 years of ownership I'd usually be already looking at changing my car but I can't think of any other car than does everything so well.
I might just keep this one till it falls apart.
It's just so (too?) easy to move to warp speed without really noticing in the M5 (because it is so well insulated) that it takes quite a lot of effort to keep within the ever descending speed limits. Driving in London with mine now feels absurd, esp on the 20 mph dual carriageways. In my old M3, it would've been ok because it was louder, manual etc, so gave a better sense of the speed, if that makes sense.
Skrambles said:
Like you guys, I'm now having to drive quite slowly, not only for family peace of mind, but because of the crazy speed limits around London and the SE.
It's just so (too?) easy to move to warp speed without really noticing in the M5 (because it is so well insulated) that it takes quite a lot of effort to keep within the ever descending speed limits. Driving in London with mine now feels absurd, esp on the 20 mph dual carriageways. In my old M3, it would've been ok because it was louder, manual etc, so gave a better sense of the speed, if that makes sense.
I too have to drive around rotherhithe/Canary Wharf and it's as you say a joke in such a car.It's just so (too?) easy to move to warp speed without really noticing in the M5 (because it is so well insulated) that it takes quite a lot of effort to keep within the ever descending speed limits. Driving in London with mine now feels absurd, esp on the 20 mph dual carriageways. In my old M3, it would've been ok because it was louder, manual etc, so gave a better sense of the speed, if that makes sense.
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Monday 22 May 16:02
Skrambles said:
Like you guys, I'm now having to drive quite slowly, not only for family peace of mind, but because of the crazy speed limits around London and the SE.
It's just so (too?) easy to move to warp speed without really noticing in the M5 (because it is so well insulated) that it takes quite a lot of effort to keep within the ever descending speed limits. Driving in London with mine now feels absurd, esp on the 20 mph dual carriageways. In my old M3, it would've been ok because it was louder, manual etc, so gave a better sense of the speed, if that makes sense.
I’ve had two M5 Comps, sold the first and regretted it so bought another. I sold the last one because it was just too fast and too accessible even though I never got near the limits of the car. I felt unsociable occasionally. It’s an amazing piece of engineering, a real classic of the future. It's just so (too?) easy to move to warp speed without really noticing in the M5 (because it is so well insulated) that it takes quite a lot of effort to keep within the ever descending speed limits. Driving in London with mine now feels absurd, esp on the 20 mph dual carriageways. In my old M3, it would've been ok because it was louder, manual etc, so gave a better sense of the speed, if that makes sense.
I’m in the process of buying a GR Yaris as a 3rd car, in the hope of having some fun at lower speeds and the odd track day.
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