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JagLover

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Friday 26th August 2005
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Times Article below

Is this a clever thing to say about women's IQ?
By Tony Halpin, Education Editor


HALF the population will dismiss this story, but a study claims that the cleverest people are much more likely to be men than women.
Men are more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, making them better suited for “tasks of high complexity”, according to the authors of a paper due to be published in the British Journal of Psychology.


Genetic differences in intelligence between the sexes helped to explain why many more men than women won Nobel Prizes or became chess grandmasters, the study by Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn concluded.

They showed that men outnumbered women in increasing numbers as intelligence levels rise. There were twice as many with IQ scores of 125, a level typical for people with first-class degrees.

When scores rose to 155, a level associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Dr Irwing, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at Manchester University, said that he was uncomfortable with the findings. But he added that the evidence was clear despite the insistence of many academics that there were “no meaningful sex differences” in levels of intelligence.

“For personal reasons I would like to believe that men and women are equal, and broadly that’s true. But over a period of time the evidence in favour of biological factors has become stronger and stronger,” he said.

“I have been dragged in a direction that I don’t particularly like, but it would be sensible if the debate was based on what we pretty much know to be the case.”

The findings from the study involving 24,000 students will intensify a battle of the sexes that was triggered last week by Michael Buerk, the BBC newscaster, who complained that “life is now being lived according to women’s rules”. He said that men had been reduced to little more than sperm-donors because of the female domin- ance of society.

Professor Lynn, a Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, is no stranger to inflammatory conclusions as the author of a number of publications arguing that there are differences in intelligence between racial groups.

He published a controversial study in 2003 that identified a clear correlation between the levels of prosperity in 60 countries and the average IQ of their populations.

Professor Lynn argued in a letter to The Psychologist this month that the differences between the sexes were explained by a link between IQ and brain size. He said: “Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.”


vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Well, we knew that already

schueymcfee

1,577 posts

295 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Same goes for driving too.

schueymcfee

1,577 posts

295 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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You know, I'm really enjoying this non-PC, speak the truth and no bull phase PH is going through at the moment.

AlexH

2,505 posts

314 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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schueymcfee said:
You know, I'm really enjoying this non-PC, speak the truth and no bull phase PH is going through at the moment.


Since was PH ever PC?

r988

7,495 posts

259 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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article said:
“Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.”


Neanderthal man also had a larger brain than humans and look where that got him. And this is mostly to do with IQ scores which are notorius for being difficult to draw proper comparisons.

Still why is there this need to compete with one another? Women and men are different and tend to do better at different things, no mystery stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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My bonce is 23 inches in circumference. Let's have some testing going on.

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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r988 said:

article said:
“Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.”



Neanderthal man also had a larger brain than humans and look where that got him. And this is mostly to do with IQ scores which are notorius for being difficult to draw proper comparisons.

Still why is there this need to compete with one another? Women and men are different and tend to do better at different things, no mystery stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.


And there goes another Non-pc giggle post down the drain!

R988

7,495 posts

259 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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andy mac said:

r988 said:


article said:
“Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.”




Neanderthal man also had a larger brain than humans and look where that got him. And this is mostly to do with IQ scores which are notorius for being difficult to draw proper comparisons.

Still why is there this need to compete with one another? Women and men are different and tend to do better at different things, no mystery stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.



And there goes another Non-pc giggle post down the drain!


Well its not fun unless someone complains and since noone else has I felt obligated I just can't help arguing, I sometimes like to take the other side just try out a different point of view

I'm suprised none of the women have replied, then again maybe they aren't clever enough

anhamgrimmar

1,025 posts

261 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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groucho said:
My bonce is 23 inches in circumference. Let's have some testing going on.


22.7 over here. just need .3 of an inch, then i can get a TVR.

WildCat

8,369 posts

273 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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JagLover said:



Professor Lynn argued in a letter to The Psychologist this month that the differences between the sexes were explained by a link between IQ and brain size. He said: “Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.”




Size ist not everything - a cow has a bigger brain than a human So where ist Nobel Moo Winner.

Though did hear police in Colombia (MEN of course locked a cow in police cell for Jay-walking und refusing to answer questions with anything other than "M-M-M-OOOOOOOH!"

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

257 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Intersting. I can't find the stuff, but I remember that donkey's years ago there was research that showed that the "bell curve" for womens IQs was taller than the mens curve which was much flatter. What this implied was than women tended en masse to be closer to average IQ whereas there were more men with very high AND very low IQs than women. So while this chap's findings may well be true(as far as IQs go of course, which is contentious at best), the stuff I recall could be used to produce the headline:

"More really stupid men than women" as well!

And this research as reported seems only to have looked at average up

Prof Beard

JagLover

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46,766 posts

265 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Prof Beard said:
Intersting. I can't find the stuff, but I remember that donkey's years ago there was research that showed that the "bell curve" for womens IQs was taller than the mens curve which was much flatter. What this implied was than women tended en masse to be closer to average IQ whereas there were more men with very high AND very low IQs than women. So while this chap's findings may well be true(as far as IQs go of course, which is contentious at best), the stuff I recall could be used to produce the headline:


I remember something vaguely similar, ie that the median woman had the same intelligence as the median man, but that there were alot more very intelligent men than there were very intelligent women.

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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anhamgrimmar said:

groucho said:
My bonce is 23 inches in circumference. Let's have some testing going on.



22.7 over here. just need .3 of an inch, then i can get a TVR.


And a medallion.

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

279 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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WildCat said:
Size ist not everything...







Are you sure?

Okay, okay, it would appear to be true in this particular study!


Prof Beard said:
"More really stupid men than women" as well!

staceyb

7,107 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Just outta interest any1 know their iq?

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

257 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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staceyb said:
Just outta interest any1 know their iq?


Yes, but I'm not telling you how big my willy is either

Prof Beard

FunkyNige

9,821 posts

305 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Why is this good news? We're going to get those pesky women moaning about his for aaaaages now. If they just lied and said 'yeah, women are smarter' we wouldn't have all the moaning to deal with.

Yes I am single.

staceyb

7,107 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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gowon gowon gowon gowon ye weel ye weel ye weel ye weel mines 147 according to the mensa website

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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staceyb said:
mines 147 according to the mensa website


lol exactly the same as me