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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4181098.stm
More fantastic and worthy energy being expended by these life-averse imbeciles.
What hapless peasants!
Are they really this desperate for something with which to fill in those tedious minutes between cups of tea? Why not pass a motion at the next conference to actually perform a useful task for the economy, like forming a TUC sponsored mercenary unit and retaking Rhodesia?
This really is how Nazi Germany started! :hehe:
More fantastic and worthy energy being expended by these life-averse imbeciles.
What hapless peasants!
Are they really this desperate for something with which to fill in those tedious minutes between cups of tea? Why not pass a motion at the next conference to actually perform a useful task for the economy, like forming a TUC sponsored mercenary unit and retaking Rhodesia?
This really is how Nazi Germany started! :hehe:
No surprise that the example used in the BBC report was a Royal Mail worker.
Malingers of the highest order !!
Must have been a fortunate photograph though in not showing the mail sorter ripping open the brightly covered envelope with birthday card in situ & removing little Johnny's £20 from his Gran.
Malingers of the highest order !!
Must have been a fortunate photograph though in not showing the mail sorter ripping open the brightly covered envelope with birthday card in situ & removing little Johnny's £20 from his Gran.
BliarOut said:
Ok, devils advocate time.... We're all sat at computers right now, correct? Have you ever stood for eight hours on a hard concrete floor day after day? It bloody hurts 
Coming from an engineering background I can see where they are coming from. It's not laziness, it's sensible IMHO.
Hate to spoil a good rant but I agree, why make your staff stand needlessly?
JagLover said:And here. I used to have a 4hour shift and that was enough standing still for me, I've still got a dodgy knee as a result of that and swimming (swimming. I mean really, I ask you. Sigh)
Ok, devils advocate time.... We're all sat at computers right now, correct? Have you ever stood for eight hours on a hard concrete floor day after day? It bloody hurts
Coming from an engineering background I can see where they are coming from. It's not laziness, it's sensible IMHO.
JagLover said:
BliarOut said:
Ok, devils advocate time.... We're all sat at computers right now, correct? Have you ever stood for eight hours on a hard concrete floor day after day? It bloody hurts
Coming from an engineering background I can see where they are coming from. It's not laziness, it's sensible IMHO.
Hate to spoil a good rant but I agree, why make your staff stand needlessly?
At last some sense being spoken. If employers think it is acceptable to make their employees suffer from long term discomfort then we should politely ask them to take their work elswhere. It is no problem to analyse the physical difficulty of work and provide for the welfare of workers. This is in fact in the interests of the company. When I was in hospital a couple of years ago. The stupid moronic bitch of a ward manager had taken away all the desks and chairs the nurses used because they were not working if they were sat down.
Within 24 hours of me landing on the ward she was suspended and the desks returned. The poor nurses had been kneeling on floor (probably a great position in this forelock touching shithole of a monarchy) to do essential record keeping. If the silly little cow had had any knowlege of management at all she would have realised that she was breaching several pieces of legislation. The reason why we still have this victorian attitude to workers and management is because we still maintain parasites at the top of our society. The sooner the filth are dragged from their palaces and shot the better for all of us. I am sorry Derestrictor you nirmally talk a lot of sense but this is not one of those occasions. The only thing the TUC could do that is more useful than this is to get all memebers together and storm Buck house....
>> Edited by nonegreen on Friday 26th August 12:07
nonegreen.
Whilst I agree with what you say regarding placing unnecesary strain on the joints through pointless standing up & the failure to provide a safe working environment thereon, sadly if any such work place legislation was intimated, I can only foresee that the somewhat more over zealous Unions would attempt to attach such legislation to the building trade, postmen, traffic wardens etc etc.
Actually thinking on, the last one wouldnt be such a bad idea.
Whilst I agree with what you say regarding placing unnecesary strain on the joints through pointless standing up & the failure to provide a safe working environment thereon, sadly if any such work place legislation was intimated, I can only foresee that the somewhat more over zealous Unions would attempt to attach such legislation to the building trade, postmen, traffic wardens etc etc.
Actually thinking on, the last one wouldnt be such a bad idea.
MILF said:
nonegreen.
Whilst I agree with what you say regarding placing unnecesary strain on the joints through pointless standing up & the failure to provide a safe working environment thereon, sadly if any such work place legislation was intimated, I can only foresee that the somewhat more over zealous Unions would attempt to attach such legislation to the building trade, postmen, traffic wardens etc etc.
Actually thinking on, the last one wouldnt be such a bad idea.
The welfare regulations apply to all those workers. There must be proper provision for breaks suited to the type of work and a supply of hot water for washing etc. It is not rocket science all the little puzzles can be solved. It is OK to ask people to walk for several hours at a time but standing stock still (or sitting for that matter DSE regs) requires that regular breaks are enforced by management. That is what SUPER VISION means ie you have a better understanding than those you supervise and therefore you make sure they come to no harm.The trade union organisation said:
standing for too long contributes to 200,000 workers with leg ailments being off sick for two million days a year.
Among their problems are varicose veins, swelling of the legs and feet, joint damage and circulatory problems.....
The trade union organisation then said:
If you sit on your arses all day, you will develop terminal piles....
Better tootle off home for a lie down, then......
nonegreen said:
...this forelock touching shithole of a monarchy...The reason why we still have this victorian attitude to workers and management is because we still maintain parasites at the top of our society. The sooner the filth are dragged from their palaces and shot the better for all of us.
I am sorry Derestrictor you normally talk a lot of sense but this is not one of those occasions. The only thing the TUC could do that is more useful than this is to get all memebers together and storm Buck house...
The TUC is a communist organisation, basically.
If that sort of thing floats your boat...
Of course decent employers will provide seating in the appropriate circumstances but this story typifies yet more unwelcome meddling.
The TUC and spiritually sympathetic agencies like HSE are for the bulk of employers in 2005 little more than a pointless haven for lazy arsed trouble makers and it is them, rather than our glorious throne dwelling class, whose heads for me would represent the better traitors' spike decoration.
"Forelock touching...monarchy?" What? These are characteristics of an unrecognisable nature in today's Britain, equally and depressingly non-existent as flexible trade unionism itself.
"Parasites at the top of our society?" Are you talking about Paris Hilton & Co, the boy Mick of Kent & family or anyone in general who doesn't down tools at midday every Oktober 17 in gimlet eyed remembrance of their heroic forbears?
And I "normally talk a lot of sense?" Please, you're just being ridiculous there...
Vlad McArkwright.
JagLover said:
Ok, devils advocate time.... We're all sat at computers right now, correct? Have you ever stood for eight hours on a hard concrete floor day after day? It bloody hurts
Coming from an engineering background I can see where they are coming from. It's not laziness, it's sensible IMHO.
Hate to spoil a good rant but I agree, why make your staff stand needlessly?
Please tell me you're having a laugh?
To put myself through uni I did various jobs including being a counterhand in a snack bar, bar man in a hotel and a shop assistant.
Before I accepted the roles I had a full understanding that all of my tasks would require me to be stood standing for the entire shift.
If I didn't want to earn money being on my feet I always had the option of finding alternative employment and not go to the union just because I couldn't be ar$ed to work
Plotloss said:
Unions.
People who spend their day working out how their members can avoid work.
More power to your Dr Scholls, brother.
Thats right, the law already makes an ass out of employers and the employee's 'rights' I know someone very close to me who works in the 'public sector', and she and her fellow workmates cannot believe how the lazier workmates get away with it. A good example of using these 'rights' for free money (and bleeding the companies profits)is a woman there, who has had no less than a year off with 'depression', on full pay, all of her workmates know she's putting it on, she's in nightclubs every weekend, often seen out shopping (brings doctors note in saying she can't leave the house!!!!)
Now that her policies' have ran out for paying her mortgage, she now wants to come back to work, and, miraculously she's fine! So, after a year off, and the other workers having to fill in for her, being one worker down, as they had to keep her job open for her, the first thing she demands is her holiday dates (!!!!), and then tries to dictate what hours and days she's willing to work (!!!!!!!!), and somehow, she's managed to get away with working two days per week, whilst we, the tax payers, make up her wages to a full 39 hours! Two employee's have already left because of this, how is this right? If this is what we've come to, I'm all for Victorian attitudes.
If people worked as hard as they know their 'rights', our economy would be booming!
PS, that story is 100% true, there is 100% nothing wrong with this fat lazy excuse for a woman, but she got away with it!
>> Edited by chris watton on Friday 26th August 16:35
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