McLaren F1 moving site

[rev-erend]

Don't know if anyone else has heard but McLaren F1 are moving back to their old site.

Seems a bit of a big staff effort during the racing season.

Can't help but think it will not exactly help them get back to the front of the field.

[PhilAsia]

rev-erend said:

Don't know if anyone else has heard but McLaren F1 are moving back to their old site.

Seems a bit of a big staff effort during the racing season.

Can't help but think it will not exactly help them get back to the front of the field.

Poyle Trading Estate in Colnbrook?

[rdjohn]

I would guess that this is simply a made-up - click-bait story that needs to be ignored until you read it in a source that actually employs journalists.

They already have a lease-back on the MTC.

[Big Nanas]

I live near the MTC and their old site (a trading estate in Shearwater) doesn't really have the space required for the entire team. They still do have two other properties in Sheerwater also.
Part of the trading estate has been converted into Apartments, so I really can't see logistically how that would work.

[vaud]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...

This seems more possible, at least for some functions. Saudi has very very deep pockets...

[Big Nanas]

Plus, thinking about this more, they've just installed their new wind tunnel at the MTC, they're not just going to abandon that!

[LukeBrown66]

I understand it will be linked to car productivity, the F1 team takes up valuable space. they fave a few models now and demand is high.

[Jon39]

LukeBrown66 said:

I understand it will be linked to car productivity, the F1 team takes up valuable space. they have a few models now and demand is high.

I am intrigued by your comment 'demand is high'

It was noticeable that companies trying to impress, stated percentage increases from 2020 to 2021.
Sensible companies provided a more relevant comparison, eg. 2019 to 2021.
For most business sectors, while the world was coping with the pandemic in 2020, obviously figures were low.

Monthly UK new registrations for McLaren, have for a while been very low.
Profitability - has there ever been any? Not during the past 5 years.

Sales numbers is 2020 reduced considerably, for obvious reasons.
In 2021, instead of a 'bounce back', the number reduced further.
No accounts published yet for 2022.

Selling their car collection seemed a strange action.
( It was announced that after the sale, it would continue on display as before. )

[TikTak]

One of my mates working in their IT team and he said he hadn't heard anything like that (assuming it would need to have that infrastructure sorted to do so) so if they are it'll be super early thoughts.

[dazm]

It's not everyone, just the Composites production facilities, moving back into unit 2 (now called MRC). The rest of the team are staying at the MTC.

[mat205125]

PhilAsia said:

rev-erend said:

Don't know if anyone else has heard but McLaren F1 are moving back to their old site.

Seems a bit of a big staff effort during the racing season.

Can't help but think it will not exactly help them get back to the front of the field.

Poyle Trading Estate in Colnbrook?

Remuera, New Zealand?

[PhilAsia]

mat205125 said:

PhilAsia said:

rev-erend said:

Don't know if anyone else has heard but McLaren F1 are moving back to their old site.

Seems a bit of a big staff effort during the racing season.

Can't help but think it will not exactly help them get back to the front of the field.

Poyle Trading Estate in Colnbrook?

Remuera, New Zealand?

Trumped!

[rev-erend]

Sorry, thinking about it. It's just race composites.

[thegreenhell]

vaud said:

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...

This seems more possible, at least for some functions. Saudi has very very deep pockets...

I'd say the likelihood of being able to tempt a team of 1000 people to relocate to the desert is approximately zero, and it's not a problem they can solve with money in the cost cap era.

[vaud]

thegreenhell said:

vaud said:

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...

This seems more possible, at least for some functions. Saudi has very very deep pockets...

I'd say the likelihood of being able to tempt a team of 1000 people to relocate to the desert is approximately zero, and it's not a problem they can solve with money in the cost cap era.

I didn't say that, I said some functions.

CFD modelling for example, or marketing, etc. Don't need to pay more when it is tax free.

[thegreenhell]

It's what the linked article said.

And they'd have to pay a damn sight more than just a tax-free inducement to get a lot of people to move there.

[ridds]

The may get some youngsters out there but anyone with partners, families etc....

Absolutely no chance.

There's a reason the Carbonfibre Triangle (and a bit) exists.

[Sandpit Steve]

thegreenhell said:

vaud said:

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...

This seems more possible, at least for some functions. Saudi has very very deep pockets...

I'd say the likelihood of being able to tempt a team of 1000 people to relocate to the desert is approximately zero, and it's not a problem they can solve with money in the cost cap era.

They’d have half a chance at setting up an operation in Dubai, where there are plenty of international schools and something of a social life - but no chance in Saudi, where only massive salaries work as an inducement, something that’s a little tricky under the cost cap regime.

That said, they do have massive ambitions there, and Dubai was a very different place 15 years ago to what it is now.

Policing a cost cap there might be fun too, with much more interconnection between government and private sector than would be seen in Europe. What’s the fair price for rent of the land, for electricity supplied by the local grid, or for the apartments and villas occupied by the staff and their families - all of which would be money paid to various government-owned or local-owned entities.