Which hot hatch? £10k max

[rotaryjam]

Hi folks

Looking for some help.

I'm looking for:

Under £10k
Hatchback
5 doors
Must sound good!
Approx 250 bhp
Sub 7 second 0-60
Easy to get oversteer either lift off or foot down

What do you think?

Current list of options:

Golf GTI
Golf R32
Audi S3
Focus ST 2.5
BMW 130i (though just had one)
Subaru WRX PPP

Thoughts on options?

[dunc69]

Your first four on the list will not oversteer easily as not RWD. Nor will the 6th I don’t think, not easily on the road anyway.

[Xcore]

130i or leggy m135i for the mad skidz.

Fiesta st? Any sort of modern fwd hatch is going to need to be pushed pretty hard on a public road to lift off oversteer

[rotaryjam]

dunc69 said:

Your first four on the list will not oversteer easily as not RWD. Nor will the 6th I don’t think, not easily on the road anyway.

That is kind of what led me to getting a 130i but I found that wasn't very willing to oversteer! Maybe the DSC and/or lack of LSD?

[Gad-Westy]

rotaryjam said:

dunc69 said:

Your first four on the list will not oversteer easily as not RWD. Nor will the 6th I don’t think, not easily on the road anyway.

That is kind of what led me to getting a 130i but I found that wasn't very willing to oversteer! Maybe the DSC and/or lack of LSD?

Probably the open diff, progressive delivery and wide tyres though if DSC was switched on, you had no chance. I think the FWD/AWD cars you lifted are going to need some very serious provocation to oversteer on the road and I'd question your sanity if you intend to drive like that. If you're more interested in a fairly neutral balance where the rear feels like it's doing some work, it might be worth considering some Megane options too.

[rotaryjam]

Gad-Westy said:

Probably the open diff, progressive delivery and wide tyres though if DSC was switched on, you had no chance. I think the FWD/AWD cars you lifted are going to need some very serious provocation to oversteer on the road and I'd question your sanity if you intend to drive like that. If you're more interested in a fairly neutral balance where the rear feels like it's doing some work, it might be worth considering some Megane options too.

I tried with DSC off and still it didnt really jiggle, I was comparing to my previous 350Z which needed very little encouragement even with DSC on.

All I'm really looking for is a car that moves a little when you put your foot down (or take it off) certainly not planning to go drifting around roundabouts or anything