Sue Gray not impartial?

[anonymous-user]

So this is a bit embarrassing Sue Gray goes to work for Starmer. So she wasn’t impartial during Partygate reporting ? Was she feeding Starmer information ?

Need a public inquiry

[RC1807]

She may not be permitted to work for Starmer.

The PM can veto the move for up to 2 years, I think it was mentioned.

[bitchstewie]

If the Conservatives lose the next election to Labour do all the existing Civil Servants have to resign because they're clearly massive Conservative supporters and aren't capable of being impartial?

Lots of political appointees have Civil Service backgrounds.

I get why people might think there's a whiff to this but it also ignores that Johnson bought it all upon himself.

Trying to suggest Gray wasn't impartial smacks of sour grapes.

[voyds9]

bhstewie said:

If the Conservatives lose the next election to Labour do all the existing Civil Servants have to resign because they're clearly massive Conservative supporters and aren't capable of being impartial?
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Over the last couple of years it has become very apparent that civil servants aren't impartial and have their own agenda

[Rufus Stone]

bhstewie said:

Trying to suggest Gray wasn't impartial smacks of sour grapes.

This.

[DMN]

Here is a compliation of Tory MP's saying just how impartial Gray is:

https://twitter.com/Mckendrick36/status/1631431805...

[ZedLeg]

voyds9 said:

bhstewie said:

If the Conservatives lose the next election to Labour do all the existing Civil Servants have to resign because they're clearly massive Conservative supporters and aren't capable of being impartial?
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Over the last couple of years it has become very apparent that civil servants aren't impartial and have their own agenda

Has it? What’s the agenda.

[ATG]

86 said:

So this is a bit embarrassing Sue Gray goes to work for Starmer. So she wasn’t impartial during Partygate reporting ? Was she feeding Starmer information ?

Need a public inquiry

Which is it? "A bit embarrassing" or "needs a public enquiry"??

Gray has had loads of senior roles under loads of PMs and Bojo and Co. were at pains to stress her impartiality. It is genuinely ludicrous to claim that this job offer is evidence of past collusion. It was also predictable that that accusation would be made and would carry weight with the usual knuckleheads (see comments by Dorries, JRM, etc) and therefore it was politically inept of Starmer to make the job offer.

[Tankrizzo]

One could also say she is sick to fking death of the current shower so is smart enough to see the way the wind is blowing and is throwing her lot in with the next potential government. Not a stupid move.

[rscott]

Yet the Conservative party had no problems turning a civil servant into a Conservative peer recently (Lord Frost...)

[valiant]

86 said:

So this is a bit embarrassing Sue Gray goes to work for Starmer. So she wasn’t impartial during Partygate reporting ? Was she feeding Starmer information ?

Need a public inquiry

Why wouldn’t she be impartial during the investigation?

Don’t judge everyone by Boris’ gutter standards.

[voyds9]

ZedLeg said:

Has it? What’s the agenda.

I don't know I'm not a civil servant.

[DaveTheRave87]

She was impartial, she's not now.

[tangerine_sedge]

ATG said:

86 said:

So this is a bit embarrassing Sue Gray goes to work for Starmer. So she wasn’t impartial during Partygate reporting ? Was she feeding Starmer information ?

Need a public inquiry

Which is it? "A bit embarrassing" or "needs a public enquiry"??

Gray has had loads of senior roles under loads of PMs and Bojo and Co. were at pains to stress her impartiality. It is genuinely ludicrous to claim that this job offer is evidence of past collusion. It was also predictable that that accusation would be made and would carry weight with the usual knuckleheads (see comments by Dorries, JRM, etc) and therefore it was politically inept of Starmer to make the job offer.

I think the accusations will quickly blow over, it's only the terminal butt-hurt spinning this for the terminal thick which is causing any noise at the moment. It'll soon be chip-wrapping paper when the next Tory sleaze/balls up is revealed...

[ZedLeg]

voyds9 said:

ZedLeg said:

Has it? What’s the agenda.

I don't know I'm not a civil servant.

So what makes you think there is one?

[dxg]

DaveTheRave87 said:

She was impartial, she's not now.

Exactly. Makes staying in her current role impossible, in my view.

Can she be stuck on gardening leave for two years?

[FredericRobinson]

voyds9 said:

I don't know I'm not a civil servant.

Not that apparent then

[bitchstewie]

Did Gray organise and attend the parties and did she tell the Police to issue Johnson with a fixed penalty notice?

[turbobloke]

ZedLeg said:

voyds9 said:

ZedLeg said:

Has it? What’s the agenda.

I don't know I'm not a civil servant.

So what makes you think there is one?

Equally, what makes people think there isn't one? This is politics.
BBC R4 were giving the impression that they're not happy this morning that a 'masterstroke' from the glorious leader was backfiring for their Party.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

Did Gray organise and attend the parties and did she write Johnson's fixed penalty notice?

Diversion.

She was responsible for an 'impartial' report, not organising Number 10 in lockdown. Or plod's work.