New Barcelona GP final chicane change
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Looks to be an S shape based on tyre marks, deeper braking through the old corner then through the middle of the island into the newer chicane area and exit the chicane as normal
https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/163016578738523...
Surely makes letting someone past in qualifying more tricky now.
https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/163016578738523...
Surely makes letting someone past in qualifying more tricky now.
FourWheelDrift said:
Looks to be an S shape based on tyre marks, deeper braking through the old corner then through the middle of the island into the newer chicane area and exit the chicane as normal
https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/163016578738523...
Surely makes letting someone past in qualifying more tricky now.
Surely, for F1, that means no chicane at all, running around the outside? https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/163016578738523...
Surely makes letting someone past in qualifying more tricky now.
They can’t be seriously doing the “two-hairpin” circuit for anything other than the Spanish Drifting Championships, or perhaps karting?
So the question becomes, do you lose more distance to the car in front by being later on the throttle out of the slow clumsy chicane, or do you lose more distance due to aero through the fast final turn. The DRS will negate some of it but how close to T1 will they get before the leading car is caught. Moves tended to be fairly late last year even with DRS.
realjv said:
So the question becomes, do you lose more distance to the car in front by being later on the throttle out of the slow clumsy chicane, or do you lose more distance due to aero through the fast final turn. The DRS will negate some of it but how close to T1 will they get before the leading car is caught. Moves tended to be fairly late last year even with DRS.
The current F1 cars should be able to follow much closer through the final corner. Two years ago, it might have been an issue, but last year showed that the new car design allows much closer racing through medium and fast corners. realjv said:
So the question becomes, do you lose more distance to the car in front by being later on the throttle out of the slow clumsy chicane, or do you lose more distance due to aero through the fast final turn. The DRS will negate some of it but how close to T1 will they get before the leading car is caught. Moves tended to be fairly late last year even with DRS.
What slow clumsy chicane?Sandpit Steve said:
realjv said:
So the question becomes, do you lose more distance to the car in front by being later on the throttle out of the slow clumsy chicane, or do you lose more distance due to aero through the fast final turn. The DRS will negate some of it but how close to T1 will they get before the leading car is caught. Moves tended to be fairly late last year even with DRS.
The current F1 cars should be able to follow much closer through the final corner. Two years ago, it might have been an issue, but last year showed that the new car design allows much closer racing through medium and fast corners. 48k said:
realjv said:
So the question becomes, do you lose more distance to the car in front by being later on the throttle out of the slow clumsy chicane, or do you lose more distance due to aero through the fast final turn. The DRS will negate some of it but how close to T1 will they get before the leading car is caught. Moves tended to be fairly late last year even with DRS.
What slow clumsy chicane?These new rules are supposed to allow cars to follow each other better, so I suppose they're banking on being able to follow relative close in the final corner then going for the DRS and overtaking into turn 1.
The speed onto the straight will be considerably higher which means DRS & slipstream will be more effective. It might marginally extend the braking zone into T1 as well, especially if it encourages the teams to run less downforce overall. Maybe the next step is to make T1 a slower corner to make that a passing place. Also drivers won't have to deal with that stop start third sector and the curved traction zone which must've given them rear tyre management issues and limited the number of overtakes attempts a driver could have along the pit straight.
Only downside is it'll make the traffic worse. The circuit will be several seconds quicker and with a faster opening to the lap.
It'll probably always be a difficult circuit for overtaking but that horrible stop-start final sector wasn't adding anything.
Only downside is it'll make the traffic worse. The circuit will be several seconds quicker and with a faster opening to the lap.
It'll probably always be a difficult circuit for overtaking but that horrible stop-start final sector wasn't adding anything.
Spain do fine they have 4 MotoGP races and they basically own and run every top level bike race series in the world, so Spanish tracks have made more than enough out of fans over the years.
Jerez would be my choice, not Valencia, that place is awful or maybe even Aragon, which is a great track for bikes but might not work for cars, but is in the absolute middle of nowhere. Bit like Magny Cours.
Jerez would be my choice, not Valencia, that place is awful or maybe even Aragon, which is a great track for bikes but might not work for cars, but is in the absolute middle of nowhere. Bit like Magny Cours.
LukeBrown66 said:
Thankfully been binned for MotoGP completely though quite how a bike doing 100mph is any less safe than a car doing 150 I don't know, but I am thankful as it was a truly hideous corner, I can see the need for an F1 chicane but not for anything else, even LMP2
Doesn't need a chicane. Much better with it removed. Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff