Just occasionally you witness someone…
Just occasionally you witness someone…
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Thankyou4calling

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10,866 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Who really can make sense of things.

By this I mean a real expert, someone who’s knowledgeable about there topic and can show they mean business.

Basically all the things that our “Leaders” aren’t! They really show them up for the charlatans they are.

Someone who’s actually bright and talks like a real person.

I’ve come across these lately;

Julian Richer. Yes he of the Hifi shops (since sold) was on LBC. Wow! He really was fantastic like Richard Branson should be really.

HM Chief inspector of Prisons. Don’t know his name but he really knew his stuff.

The Kenyan Head health honcho (I spend a lot of time there) talking about Covid in a way that I’ve heard absolutely no one in the UK coming close to and in English!

And finally Mick Lynch. Love or hate him it’s pretty obvious why Rishi won’t meet as he’d be quivering in the corner like a baby. He knows his onions. Power to the people!

Anyone else that comes to mind or thoughts on the above?

bitchstewie

63,864 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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People have had enough of experts.

PositronicRay

28,568 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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If someone can't explain there stuff in simple language, they really don't understand the stuff to start with


( or something like that)

jhonn

1,660 posts

171 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Thankyou4calling said:
By this I mean a real expert, someone who’s knowledgeable about there topic and can show they mean business.
PositronicRay said:
If someone can't explain there stuff in simple language, they really don't understand the stuff to start with

A little ironic, don't you think wink.

Anyhoo - in terms of positive contribution - I've always found Professor Brian Cox capable of making complex matters around space and time relatively easy to grasp.

cgt2

7,298 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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I knew Julian in the 90's. A really nice guy, bit of a petrolhead too.

No idea if that qualifies him for anything else though

Blue62

10,170 posts

174 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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As an atheist I always enjoy listening to and watching the late Christopher Hitchens, a great mind and wonderful orator.

Crumpet

4,989 posts

202 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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jhonn said:
Anyhoo - in terms of positive contribution - I've always found Professor Brian Cox capable of making complex matters around space and time relatively easy to grasp.
Shame he’s an unbearably smug tt!

Dixy

3,456 posts

227 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Thankyou4calling said:
Who really can make sense of things.


And finally Mick Lynch. Love or hate him it’s pretty obvious why Rishi won’t meet as he’d be quivering in the corner like a baby. He knows his onions. Power to the people!

Yes I heard him speaking on Breakfast on a strike day. He said "where is the transport secretary, on a private jet or holidaying on a Caribbean island instead of meeting me"
Latter they talk to the Transport secretary in his kitchen at home.
Just a rabble rousing union leader.

Cold

16,376 posts

112 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Dixy said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Who really can make sense of things.


And finally Mick Lynch. Love or hate him it’s pretty obvious why Rishi won’t meet as he’d be quivering in the corner like a baby. He knows his onions. Power to the people!

Yes I heard him speaking on Breakfast on a strike day. He said "where is the transport secretary, on a private jet or holidaying on a Caribbean island instead of meeting me"
Latter they talk to the Transport secretary in his kitchen at home.
Just a rabble rousing union leader.
I have to agree. He's just a donkey jacket away from standing next to an improvised brazier.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,838 posts

172 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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bhstewie said:
People have had enough of experts.
I think that was Gove, and in hindsight, it was exports, not experts.

neilr

1,576 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Dixy said:
Yes I heard him speaking on Breakfast on a strike day. He said "where is the transport secretary, on a private jet or holidaying on a Caribbean island instead of meeting me"
Latter they talk to the Transport secretary in his kitchen at home.
Just a rabble rousing union leader.
I think the point might be that regardless of the actual whereabouts of the transport sec, they weren't meeting with Mick Lynch.

maffski

1,905 posts

181 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Thankyou4calling said:
...Julian Richer...
Do you mean this Julian Richer, that campaigns against tax avoidance? Where businesses use legal tax loopholes to reduce their tax payments.

Or do you mean this Julian Richer, who sold his HiFi retail business and used tax loopholes to avoid paying any capital gains tax?

Sorry, my mistake, they're the same Julian Richer.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

179 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Neil De Grasi Tyson (spelling maybe) he often makes very complex ideas palatable to an extent you can consider them. Stephen Hawkin did the same.

The authors of freakenomics do some great things there too.

Gareth79

8,705 posts

268 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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maffski said:
Thankyou4calling said:
...Julian Richer...
Do you mean this Julian Richer, that campaigns against tax avoidance? Where businesses use legal tax loopholes to reduce their tax payments.

Or do you mean this Julian Richer, who sold his HiFi retail business and used tax loopholes to avoid paying any capital gains tax?

Sorry, my mistake, they're the same Julian Richer.
I believe that was because he didn't want his employees and very carefully-run and successful business to get screwed over if he sold to an investment fund etc?

After the sale he personally gave every employee £1,000 per year of service, nearly £4m in total.

Drawweight

3,472 posts

138 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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So is this the thread where a person is nominated only for the next poster to shoot them down in flames?

Biggus thingus

1,358 posts

66 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Always been a big fan of Louis antoine de Saint-Just

crankedup5

10,917 posts

57 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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bhstewie said:
People have had enough of experts.
100%, sadly many seem to have migrated to P/H.

rallycross

13,681 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Dany Bahar? Oh sorry wrong thread for that Idiot!

57Ford

5,656 posts

156 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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jhonn said:
Anyhoo - in terms of positive contribution - I've always found Professor Brian Cox capable of making complex matters around space and time relatively easy to grasp.
Yeah, I thought that too and my wife knew it. That’s why I was absolutely delighted when she bought me tickets to go and see ‘An Evening With Brian Cox’ type show in Preston.
Now, neither of us are entirely thick and we both have a reasonable grasp of the world we live in but me and my mate understood his Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome. Beyond that we were at a total loss - it was like we’d stumbled into a post-grad astro-physics debate that would have left Sheldon Cooper with a headache! We left at the interval.

ScotHill

3,863 posts

131 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bhstewie said:
People have had enough of experts.
To be fair to Michael Gove, the full quote is "I think the people in this country have had enough of experts from organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong."

To be unfair to Michael Gove, he looks like Pob.