F32 440i - YK68KHA - Does anyone know this car?

F32 440i - YK68KHA - Does anyone know this car?

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MitchT

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16,160 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Is anyone here familiar with a Snapper Rocks Blue F32 BMW 440i Coupé - reg YK68KHA?

I first noticed it on the approved used BMW search at a BMW main dealer a good four hours away, listed at £27,590. Over time it dropped to £25,990. It was also listed on Cinch for a time, while also at the BMW main dealer. It disappeared and I thought it had sold, but it then appeared again at an independent dealership, firstly for £26,990 and then reduced to £25,990.

I love the car but I can't help wondering why it hasn't sold. Are people who actually go and look at it being put off by something? It's showing as untaxed since 20 June 2022 which is an awfully long time for it to not sell. A near identical one listed for £26,230 at a BMW main dealer much closer to me disappeared, presumably sold, on the day I was going to phone up about it so, while I know that Snapper Rocks Blue is something of a "marmite" colour, clearly the price point is about right.

I'd love to establish some confidence that the car is sound but the length of time it's been sitting unsold rings alarm bells and it's a good four hours away, so not easy to just go an have a look.

MitchT

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16,160 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Another thing…

The tax expired on 22 June 2022, but a new MOT was put on it on 12 July 2022, even though the MOT wasn’t due to expire until October. Then, on 21 October yet another MOT was put on it, even though it now wouldn’t expire until July 2023!

The only explanation I can think of is that the main dealer would sell the car with 12 months’ MOT and was sufficiently convinced that someone was about to buy the car as to put a fresh MOT on, but then the sale didn’t happen, hence why it was never taxed.

So, twice someone has got close enough to buying it to prompt the dealer to put a fresh MOT on, but has then backed out so it’s never been taxed as that would be down to the new owner.

MarkJS

1,702 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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It looks pretty clean and the one advisory (which is extremely minor) on the MOT history has been cleared.

I'm not keen on the Ivory dashboard and would prefer that black but that's just a personal thing. Ask them to confirm the full service history is actually with BMW and get them to send you a video - the photo's don't show the wheels in detail for example?

It will need at least a set of front mats... wink

CrgT16

2,063 posts

114 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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I think the price is strong. I had a 340i of similar age and was bought for around £37k new as BMW gave me £9k deposit contribution. With that in mind price would be too strong for me.

Nice cars but I prefer the estate version. At almost 5 years old I think price is why but I guess it’s the way it is these days.

paradigital

951 posts

158 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Snapper is the best colour, snapper it up.

It does seem quite strong price-wise, especially given the value of my year-older (2017) Snapper Rocks Blue F33 440i.

MitchT

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16,160 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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MarkJS said:
I'm not keen on the Ivory dashboard and would prefer that black but that's just a personal thing.
Yes, definitely a personal thing. I prefer the ivory dashboard as it means there's a consistent flow of colour from the door cards. When the dashboard is black on a car with coloured seats and door card inserts it reminds me of cars that had black plastic bumpers that don't match the adjacent parts.

MarkJS said:
Ask them to confirm the full service history is actually with BMW...
I'm guessing it will have as it was listed at a BMW main dealer until late last year and hasn't moved since, other than to the independent that's now selling it.

MarkJS said:
... the photo's don't show the wheels in detail for example?
The pics on the (now defunct) BMW main dealer listing could be enlarged. The only issues I could see was that the little "M" badges on the wheels were all missing. Otherwise the whole car looked immaculate. Even the piano black trim inside, which I understand is prone to scratching, was very clean.

CrgT16 said:
I think the price is strong.
paradigital said:
It does seem quite strong price-wise...
There was a near identical one with 18,000 miles at a BMW main dealer for £26,230 which disappeared from the approved used search on the day that I was going to get onto them about it, so I think this is just what these cost. There's a near identical May 2017 one with 17,000 miles currently for sale at a BMW main dealer for £24,700, which actually seems more overpriced in my opinion, given that it'll be six years old soon. Also, Snapper Rocks Blue ones seem to be about 10% cheaper than comparable cars in Black, so when looked at that way they actually look like relatively good value.

My only misgivings with the car that I started the thread about is that, as it's now at an independent dealer, I'd have to fork out for a BMW warranty and, potentially, a new battery if its been sat since June last year.



Yomamaisasnowblower

305 posts

23 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Looking for a similar car but not painted in SRB. Looks good but just not for me.

Issue is prices are bananas and hardly any to choose from at the moment. Thinking of dropping to the 430 instead but can't bring myself to buy a BMW with a 4 pot...

numtumfutunch

4,838 posts

144 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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I think that colour is fantastic

Anyway........

As is often the case I cant easily work out what options this car has from the ad but it looks fairly well equipped
Its also on a Yorkshire registration

If you do a Sherlock Holmes on the above then its probably been a press car

Up to you if this is an issue

Good luck, it looks lovely

MitchT

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16,160 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Yomamaisasnowblower said:
Thinking of dropping to the 430 instead but can't bring myself to buy a BMW with a 4 pot...
I was originally looking for a 420i - couldn't see the point of paying more for a 430i when it's still a four pot - but then I ran an insurance quote for a 440i and was surprised how reasonable it was. I've always wanted a six cylinder petrol BMW and I can now afford one, so I've decided to to it before it's too late.

MitchT

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16,160 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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numtumfutunch said:
I think that colour is fantastic
It's by far my favourite colour. I'm ONLY looking for them in this colour.

numtumfutunch said:
As is often the case I cant easily work out what options this car has from the ad but it looks fairly well equipped
When it was listed on Cinch the options and the value they added were listed. I can't remember what they all were now but based on the list price in October 2018 I think they'd have taken the overall specced price to about £48k from what I can remember.

numtumfutunch said:
Its also on a Yorkshire registration
Indeed. I wonder which dealer it came from? I'm Yorkshire born and bred and I quite like the idea of rescuing the car and bringing it home from the clutches of the South!

MitchT

Original Poster:

16,160 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Managed to get the spec here from a VIN decoder site, though I'm not 100% sure which of these bits were actual extras, or what the extras added to the price...

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/wba4w72070af33737

MarkJS

1,702 posts

153 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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MitchT said:
Indeed. I wonder which dealer it came from? I'm Yorkshire born and bred and I quite like the idea of rescuing the car and bringing it home from the clutches of the South!
I think it had original Marshall plates when I looked, so possibly Grimsby or Shorpe.

I'm not sure why a previous poster thinks it might have been a press car apart from BMW UK sometimes registering cars in Yorkshire for the press fleet - many more 'normal' Yorkshire registrations take place, I'm sure.

The lack of M badges on the wheels could be an indication that they've been refurbished and the badges not replaced - or an over-zealous valeter with a pressure washer.

paradigital

951 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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MarkJS said:
I think it had original Marshall plates when I looked, so possibly Grimsby or Shorpe.

I'm not sure why a previous poster thinks it might have been a press car apart from BMW UK sometimes registering cars in Yorkshire for the press fleet - many more 'normal' Yorkshire registrations take place, I'm sure.

The lack of M badges on the wheels could be an indication that they've been refurbished and the badges not replaced - or an over-zealous valeter with a pressure washer.
The amount of those badges mine has lost in 2 years is daft. I’d not read into that too much.

MitchT

Original Poster:

16,160 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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MarkJS said:
I think it had original Marshall plates when I looked, so possibly Grimsby or Shorpe.
I first saw the car for sale last September on the Approved Used BMW search - it was at Marshall Hampshire. At that point, on the official BMW photos, it had Cinch plates on it. At some point they were updated to Marshall plates, though the photos looked the same so maybe the plates had just been photoshopped. I guess it's possible that the car was originally supplied by a Marshall dealership in Yorkshire, though by no means a certainty.

As the car has been untaxed since 20 June 2022 I guess it might have been with Cinch for longer than Marshall Hampshire had it. Cinch's website says "All cars come with a minimum of 6 months on the MOT", so that might explain the MOT in July 2022. If someone had agreed to buy it (but then backed out of the purchase before getting as far as taxing it) then Cinch would have MOT'd it as there was less than six months left. Still doesn't explain another MOT being done in October though as it would have had nine months left at that point.

Yomamaisasnowblower

305 posts

23 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Just a note, the number of 440i Gc's on sale seems to have increased overnight! Plenty out there so hold fire till you find the right one...

MitchT

Original Poster:

16,160 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Yomamaisasnowblower said:
Just a note, the number of 440i Gc's on sale seems to have increased overnight! Plenty out there so hold fire till you find the right one...
I'm open to either a Coupé or a Gran Coupé, though GCs seem to be more scarce, particularly in Snapper Rocks Blue, and they seem to be priced higher.

TheGinger1

72 posts

70 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Pretty sure all BMW company cars have Yorkshire registrations hence why there are so many of them. Likely it was just a company car for someone either head office or dealer for the first six months or year.

Similar to the likes of Audi and Volvo from memory often having Oxfordshire plates

MitchT

Original Poster:

16,160 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Still curious about this car so just did a VCheck on it. Everything checks out OK. Only item of interest is that the first owner only had it for 10 months & 21 days, which seems a little odd.

d_a_n1979

9,434 posts

78 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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MitchT said:
Still curious about this car so just did a VCheck on it. Everything checks out OK. Only item of interest is that the first owner only had it for 10 months & 21 days, which seems a little odd.
Managers car maybe?

Mr Squarekins

1,158 posts

68 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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d_a_n1979 said:
MitchT said:
Still curious about this car so just did a VCheck on it. Everything checks out OK. Only item of interest is that the first owner only had it for 10 months & 21 days, which seems a little odd.
Managers car maybe?
Quite possibly. Lots of Y plate bmws like that. I've had a couple, low miles, very high spec, less than a year old, owned by bmw. Not demo cars, bmw staff cars.