BRZ 2.4

[alisdairm]

Why don't Subaru sell their BRZ 2.4 in the UK.

The UK allocation of GR86s were sold out in 90 mins, therefore there is demand in the UK for 2.4 coupe.

Unless Subaru is losing money on every BRZ they sell, but they are selling them in the USA and Australia.

What am I missing?

[rovermorris999]

They're not interested in that market segment any more sadly. It's fairly plodding safe family transport all the way now and I'm not how long they can continue selling so few cars. I'll not buy another. I have a 2018 Forester XT, bought new as it was the end of the turbo Foresters, and a WRX Sti Final Edition, again bought as it was the last chance to get one. I'll run the Forester into the ground, it's a daily. The WRX has now all of 3550 miles on it which I suppose is daft but it makes me smile seeing it in the garage. At least it's gone up a little in value.

[Blightor]

Hello.

I look after a website/forum for these cars (I'm not interested in advertising it here), but in the spirit of information sharing I can tell you that the EU forum members are getting European orders being made and accepted, with deliveries actually already in a couple of lucky customers for the 2022 BRZ.

All I know is that not a lot of advertising is being made about the reversal of the decision to not bring them to the market for the small window they have, but it has something to do with both of them being certified as a single model it doesn't have to go in under a new model so has the same window for sale as the GR86, and by what's being said on the forum, there wont be many cars available.

Have no idea if its comming to the UK, but I know its already up on some other EU country websites. I'd speak to dealers asap.

I hope this helps you gents and ladies, and I hope they have some for the UK as well.

Currently confirmed EU countries taking order are Germany, Czechia, Hungary , Switzerland, Poland, Spain.

Some links to countries that have them on websites;
https://www.subaru.cz/brz-prehled.html
https://www.subaru.at/modelle/brz/ubersicht
https://brz.subaru-drive.ch/

Edited by Blightor on Saturday 28th January 03:37

[rovermorris999]

That's interesting. In the UK it's all down to International Motors, the sole importers.

[spikyone]

That's interesting. I thought the reason they weren't bringing the BRZ to Europe was the fleet average emissions rules, with Subaru lacking enough EV/PHEVs to offset a relatively high emission car. Have they found a way to get around it?

[Blightor]

I guess they can control the car numbers of limited allocation as with the GR86, plus they have cancelled the STI - I'd imagine that this might give them a bit of room?

[Blightor]

rovermorris999 said:

That's interesting. In the UK it's all down to International Motors, the sole importers.

I would certainly be talking to International Motors head office and asking questions. These are really wonderful cars to drive, and while the world we live in has moved to crazy power and torque with electric and turbo, the amount of torque from this 4cyl is pretty astonishing compared to any other 4cyl na car.

Also, I would say that the ever so slightly more supple suspension geometry on the BRZ might match your roads every so slightly better.

[Nomad 5]

Blightor said:

rovermorris999 said:

That's interesting. In the UK it's all down to International Motors, the sole importers.

I would certainly be talking to International Motors head office and asking questions. These are really wonderful cars to drive, and while the world we live in has moved to crazy power and torque with electric and turbo, the amount of torque from this 4cyl is pretty astonishing compared to any other 4cyl na car.

Also, I would say that the ever so slightly more supple suspension geometry on the BRZ might match your roads every so slightly better.

Hasnt it pretty much always been the case that International Motors have an allocation they buy / are allowed / bring in and thus they just bring in what they know / think will sell?

Probably more margin on the mundaine stuff

[rovermorris999]

I think they'd easily sell a few hundred BRX. The 150 STI Final Editions sold out in days. But I doubt it is viable to support such small numbers of niche models. The small dealer I use said there PR image is now very much on safety and their Eyesight system can only be fitted to CVT or EV cars.

[Blightor]

rovermorris999 said:

I think they'd easily sell a few hundred BRX. The 150 STI Final Editions sold out in days. But I doubt it is viable to support such small numbers of niche models. The small dealer I use said there PR image is now very much on safety and their Eyesight system can only be fitted to CVT or EV cars.

Not sure, I'd be surprised if there was a considerable difference between the maintenance of the FA24D to the FA20D. But you could be right. I think it makes sense from a brand positioning though, because it gives them back a bit of excitement before they have those new EV models in '25.

As an FYI - they have Eyesight on their alternative fuel (synthetic fuel) manual BRZ mule they are using, so its expected to come to market (Australia requires an AEB for car and peds from '25 onwards for existing models and subaru seem confident the manual will continue to be offered after that date). Not that it helps EU regs of course, because there is more to it than just having AEB.

[rovermorris999]

Blightor said:

Not sure, I'd be surprised if there was a considerable difference between the maintenance of the FA24D to the FA20D. But you could be right. I think it makes sense from a brand positioning though, because it gives them back a bit of excitement before they have those new EV models in '25.

As an FYI - they have Eyesight on their alternative fuel (synthetic fuel) manual BRZ mule they are using, so its expected to come to market (Australia requires an AEB for car and peds from '25 onwards for existing models and subaru seem confident the manual will continue to be offered after that date). Not that it helps EU regs of course, because there is more to it than just having AEB.

That's interesting. How does Eyesight work if it comes to a full stop with a manual, does it somehow disengage the clutch to prevent stalling?

[Blightor]

rovermorris999 said:

That's interesting. How does Eyesight work if it comes to a full stop with a manual, does it somehow disengage the clutch to prevent stalling?

Don't know - probably stops asking for torque from the engine and stall the car, like other systems.

Toyota, who actually make the transmission (one of the few fully Toyota parts) through their Aisin subsidiary, has a system working on the GR Yaris - not sure if they use a motor to disengage the clutch or if they just stall it.

[alisdairm]

Did anybody manage to find out if the UK importer is taking orders for the BRZ 2.4?

I'll pop down to my local Subaru garage this weekend and ask.

[P. ONeill]

You could always import one yourself.