Sports Team Sponsorship
Sports Team Sponsorship
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Glassman

Original Poster:

23,725 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Does anyone sponsor a team?

Is anyone involved in attracting sponsors for a team?

Looking at expectations and benefits.

Have been sponsoring a local team (into second spell now) and frankly, they're just not delivering. The exposure has been negligible. Expected far more than being mentioned once or twice; assumed there would be a 'minimum' they would do by way of obligation.

If I'm to go into a third season, I'd like some more commitment from them so looking for advice on the matter.

MadCaptainJack

1,214 posts

56 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Give 'em a pep talk, hairdryer style. Tell 'em they need to up their game. Set some big hairy audacious goals. Promotion to the Premiership, fourth round of the FA Cup, that sort of thing. Threaten to reduce the sponsorship and ask them how they'll afford their Lambos and Bentleys then, eh?! wink

robdcfc

524 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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From a quick google am I correct in saying its your lads junior side you sponsor??

If thats correct I always did it on the basis it was just a way to write a few quid off and look good in front of the parents.

I very much doubt youll get much from many junior sides apart from the occasional photo in the local rag if they do well.

craigjm

19,477 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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What are you sponsoring? The shirts? The games? I guess the level of exposure would be different

Glassman

Original Poster:

23,725 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Youth football; team is under 14 boys (year 9 at school).

I don't expect to get a job as such from it; I'm doing it to help the club. The issue I have is that I think the club isn't being run well and they are taking the money and not reciprocating with any more than a mention on LinkedIn once or twice a year. If there was some proper exposure/appreciation/acknowledgement i could use it accordingly but there's nothing. I also manage the team.

Recently took matters into my own hands and started an Instagram page for the team (and its sponsor) as well as a matchday blog. I've been enjoying the interaction from that but after getting carried away with it I'm think, hang about, the club need to be doing something like this.

My thoughts are to just put the money directly into the team. Sponsoring the club way isn't working for me as a sponsor, and the team do not benefit directly from it. They could do with tracksuits for example, and it will save me a chunk of money. The team can thank the donator of the gear on their insta page.

Glassman

Original Poster:

23,725 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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craigjm said:
What are you sponsoring? The shirts? The games? I guess the level of exposure would be different
Prominent sponsorship. Front of the shirt.

In my first season as a manager (and sponsor) I attracted two sleeve sponsors. In terms of how the club 'advertises' their sponsors, it's not different if you're a main shirt sponsor or a sleeve sponsor at a third of the price.

MadCaptainJack

1,214 posts

56 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Glassman said:
Youth football; team is under 14 boys (year 9 at school).
My advice stands. Gotta aim high. wink

Puzzles

2,962 posts

127 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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im not saying you are wrong but i think your expectations are too high

sociopath

3,433 posts

82 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Puzzles said:
im not saying you are wrong but i think your expectations are too high
I'll probably take some flak for this, but what sort of person sponsors their kids team and expects comeback?

egor110

17,522 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Glassman said:
craigjm said:
What are you sponsoring? The shirts? The games? I guess the level of exposure would be different
Prominent sponsorship. Front of the shirt.

In my first season as a manager (and sponsor) I attracted two sleeve sponsors. In terms of how the club 'advertises' their sponsors, it's not different if you're a main shirt sponsor or a sleeve sponsor at a third of the price.
Surely that's all you are going to get ?

If the club has it's own pitch maybe ad hoardings , if there's a match day program then a reference but what more do you think your going to get ?

egomeister

7,202 posts

279 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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I think it's tough to expect much in the way of promotion from a kids football team (although I can totally understand the frustration). I suspect most arrangements at this level are more akin to donations that true sponsorship.

Perhaps look at it the other way around - what can you do in your own marketing to leverage your involvement in the team?

Simpo Two

89,348 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Glassman said:
I don't expect to get a job as such from it; I'm doing it to help the club. The issue I have is that I think the club isn't being run well and they are taking the money and not reciprocating with any more than a mention on LinkedIn once or twice a year. If there was some proper exposure/appreciation/acknowledgement i could use it accordingly but there's nothing. I also manage the team.
I can think of three options:

1) Agree in advance what the coverage is going to be, not just pay and hope. But if the deal is not to gain work, does it matter?
2) Run the club yourself.
3) Find a better or more appreciative club to work with.

Glassman

Original Poster:

23,725 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Thanks for the feedback, all.

You would want to get some kind of return from £2k into A&M whatever the circumstances. I fully expect not to get my target customer rock up through it but at least for the club to promote their sponsors internally as well as externally. We recently had a managers meeting and they arranged it in a pub/restaurant. The club has a couple of options in house as it were (two managers run bars/cafes/pizzerias and there are several sponsors with bar/food themes). When I suggested to the board that we should perhaps be looking closer to home before going elsewhere, it didn't strike me as something they cared too much about. Lazy IMHO.

egor110

17,522 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Wouldn't it cause internal issues ?

If you pick one mangers venue over the other and he gains from the xmas do ?

Neutral venue and that issues taken off the table .

Other than main sponsor is on front/back of shirt and secondary sponsor is on the sleeves there's not much else tangible they can do ?

You mentioned word of mouth but trades stuff people recommend who's actually done a good job for them rather not who sponsors the kids football team .

Truckosaurus

12,705 posts

300 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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From reading about motorsport sponsorship, the key phrase is 'activation', where the sponsoring firm does advertising and other activities to link the sponsored person/team to their product.

So the OP needs to be mentioning the kid's team in his adverts to show what a community minded fellow he is and offer discounted windscreens to the parents of the kids (maybe other team's as well).

Mr Penguin

3,456 posts

55 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Glassman said:
Youth football; team is under 14 boys (year 9 at school).

I don't expect to get a job as such from it; I'm doing it to help the club. The issue I have is that I think the club isn't being run well and they are taking the money and not reciprocating with any more than a mention on LinkedIn once or twice a year. If there was some proper exposure/appreciation/acknowledgement i could use it accordingly but there's nothing. I also manage the team.

Recently took matters into my own hands and started an Instagram page for the team (and its sponsor) as well as a matchday blog. I've been enjoying the interaction from that but after getting carried away with it I'm think, hang about, the club need to be doing something like this.

My thoughts are to just put the money directly into the team. Sponsoring the club way isn't working for me as a sponsor, and the team do not benefit directly from it. They could do with tracksuits for example, and it will save me a chunk of money. The team can thank the donator of the gear on their insta page.
Who is the club, if not the manager? Its a bit different if its Real Madrid U14 but if its a regular U14 football team in a regular junior league then it will all be volunteers like you anyway.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

35 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Sorry, £2k into a kid's team? Are you mad?

For that, I'd expect the shirt sponsorship of my local rugby club first team home and away. Which would give at least some local coverage in the press/online.

Ultimately though, at your level, it's a tax write off. Nothing else.

Simpo Two

89,348 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Mr Penguin said:
Who is the club, if not the manager? Its a bit different if its Real Madrid U14 but if its a regular U14 football team in a regular junior league then it will all be volunteers like you anyway.
I took it to read that he manages the team (as in coach) but not the club (as in director).

Sounds like they viewed the £2K as a donation, said 'Ta' and carried on as before. And why wouldn't they, in the absence of any conditions.

dazmanultra

447 posts

108 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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I always thought that sponsorship at this junior level was about subsidising (or covering) the cost of kits and other equipment (e.g. match balls and training balls, bibs, other stuff). The idea being you're doing a "nice thing" by helping them out. I think £2k is a bit rich though, I thought you were going to say £500!

Gilmore

315 posts

150 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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Seems like there's far too many blurred lines here Glassman.



From what I gather, you're the:

- Main sponsor
- Manager
- Parent of one of the players

You are:

- Unhappy with the way the club is run
- Don't feel you're getting VFM from the sponsorship
- Feel Sponsors 2/3 are getting a better deal than you but you attracted them

Sponsoring grass roots football for me, is a nice way to give back to the club and expectations of any sort of ROI should be zero.

If you feel £2k breaches the threshold of 'nice way to give back' then suggest you don't renew but I wouldn't be trying to make demands etc.

Also, you 'assumed' they'd do more to help promote your business, good lesson to be learnt here, assume nothing, it never ends well..