What on Earth? Seidl to Sauber
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F1 reporting the plan was for Seidl to go to Audi in 2025 but the Binotto sacking has set the dominoes tumbling:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mclaren...
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mclaren...
carl_w said:
F1 reporting the plan was for Seidl to go to Audi in 2025 but the Binotto sacking has set the dominoes tumbling:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mclaren...
Makes sense, I see Seidl and Vasseur have acted with integrity, allowing a smooth process for all teams. Andrea Stella looks to have been made for the role. Hopefully he can bring some extra and keep Seidl's efficiency of operations going. Could be exciting timeshttps://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mclaren...
maz8062 said:
DD321 said:
Andrea Stella confirmed as new McLaren TP
Is this the same guy that used to be Alonso’s RE in his Ferrari days? If so, how the hell is he now qualified to be a TP for a team like McLaren. How the mighty have fallen.
t yourself when you read about the likes of Frank Williams thenSeriously, check out his experience and qualifications.....
maz8062 said:
DD321 said:
Andrea Stella confirmed as new McLaren TP
Is this the same guy that used to be Alonso’s RE in his Ferrari days? If so, how the hell is he now qualified to be a TP for a team like McLaren. How the mighty have fallen.Do you think there is a TP school where you study without actually working in a lower role in a race team?
Stella is more than qualified.
If you were to produce one then the archetypal TP would be in the mould of Eddie Jordan, Frank Williams, Ron Dennis who ran, owned their teams, grafting by finding the cars, finding the money and climbed the motorsport ladder into F1. I would add Christian Horner on to the list.
The reality is its just a managerial role whether you're the owner of the team or not, with or without experience in the racing world. With the way teams are structured now being comfortable with boardroom executives and treating sponsors as clients counts as enough for commercial experience as there's a commercial department.
I think what makes Stella's appointment feel like out of the blue is that he's someone who's rarely in the limelight. I think we can all agree is that a prerequisite of a TP is being willing to face the media spotlight and intense scrutiny.
The reality is its just a managerial role whether you're the owner of the team or not, with or without experience in the racing world. With the way teams are structured now being comfortable with boardroom executives and treating sponsors as clients counts as enough for commercial experience as there's a commercial department.
I think what makes Stella's appointment feel like out of the blue is that he's someone who's rarely in the limelight. I think we can all agree is that a prerequisite of a TP is being willing to face the media spotlight and intense scrutiny.
entropy said:
If you were to produce one then the archetypal TP would be in the mould of Eddie Jordan, Frank Williams, Ron Dennis who ran, owned their teams, grafting by finding the cars, finding the money and climbed the motorsport ladder into F1. I would add Christian Horner on to the list.
The reality is its just a managerial role whether you're the owner of the team or not, with or without experience in the racing world. With the way teams are structured now being comfortable with boardroom executives and treating sponsors as clients counts as enough for commercial experience as there's a commercial department.
I think what makes Stella's appointment feel like out of the blue is that he's someone who's rarely in the limelight. I think we can all agree is that a prerequisite of a TP is being willing to face the media spotlight and intense scrutiny.
Horner is definitely an old skool racer/wheeler dealer like the others you mention. Decent precis of his pathway from Driver 61 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqDcX4tB8ioThe reality is its just a managerial role whether you're the owner of the team or not, with or without experience in the racing world. With the way teams are structured now being comfortable with boardroom executives and treating sponsors as clients counts as enough for commercial experience as there's a commercial department.
I think what makes Stella's appointment feel like out of the blue is that he's someone who's rarely in the limelight. I think we can all agree is that a prerequisite of a TP is being willing to face the media spotlight and intense scrutiny.
entropy said:
I think what makes Stella's appointment feel like out of the blue is that he's someone who's rarely in the limelight. I think we can all agree is that a prerequisite of a TP is being willing to face the media spotlight and intense scrutiny.
It's not that out of the blue. He's been Racing Director of McLaren for a few years, and was a sort of caretaker-TP for a year after Eric Boullier left until Andreas Seidl joined in that role. In terms of media spotlight, I think Zak Brown takes a lot of that heat anyway, and always seemed more prominent in the press that Seidl did.thegreenhell said:
It's not that out of the blue. He's been Racing Director of McLaren for a few years, and was a sort of caretaker-TP for a year after Eric Boullier left until Andreas Seidl joined in that role. In terms of media spotlight, I think Zak Brown takes a lot of that heat anyway, and always seemed more prominent in the press that Seidl did.
Zak doesn't go to all the F1 races and has other racing interests to worry about such as the SPAM Indycar team and United Autosports in endurance racing and Walkinshaw/V8 Supercars.You're only as good as the last timed session let alone the last race. Most fans form their opinions off the TV and if you remember the start of Zak's reign a lot of fans were ignorant - brash American who knew nothing of the sport; I remember Nick Fry got a lot of bashing for being clueless at BAR/Honda but he never shied away from from the media c.f. Mauricio Arrivabene/Ferrari.
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