Thoughts on this MOT failure from 2020
Thoughts on this MOT failure from 2020
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Wiltshire2282

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6 posts

45 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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A car I'm looking at had a failure in 2020, it was rectified and hasn't shown up in the past two MOT'S since.

It was:

Offside Front Outer Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced sill (6.1.1 (c) (i))

Thoughts please.

Thank you.

zedx19

3,040 posts

168 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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Could have been chopped out and welded up properly. Could have been plated over leaving the rust behind. Could have been bodged up with gaffa tape and underseal. Absolutely no idea unless you get it on a ramp and have a proud around and look.

If it's a 500 quid car, then I wouldn't worry but I'd be of the understanding the rot might kill it on the next MOT.

If it's worth any decent money, I'd have it properly checked on a ramp.


brman

1,233 posts

137 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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zedx19 said:
Could have been chopped out and welded up properly. Could have been plated over leaving the rust behind. Could have been bodged up with gaffa tape and underseal. Absolutely no idea unless you get it on a ramp and have a proud around and look.

If it's a 500 quid car, then I wouldn't worry but I'd be of the understanding the rot might kill it on the next MOT.

If it's worth any decent money, I'd have it properly checked on a ramp.
What he said.
I would generally assume that if a car has started rusting it will continue to do so. How well it is fixed just changes how long it will be before it needs fixing again. Of course it could last for another 20 years but you won't know without cutting it open to find out. Rust is like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it....

On the other hand if it something like an MX5 and you really want one then you might have accept that rust will become a part of you life wink

steveo3002

11,196 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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cant judge it from a computer screen , you need somebody under it that knows their stuff

could have had a rough mot spec patch lashed on that will last a couple of years or maybe an expensive repair to like new standards

would suggest to me that no one cared about it to catch it before it was a fail and let it carry on rusting away until forced to do something , if they didnt care it had rust holes in it ,then did they change the oil on time and look after it well ?

mac96

6,238 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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In addition, I'd be thinking that the nearside front and probably other places were quite likely on the way out as well. Needs a good look to see.

normalbloke

8,757 posts

247 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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Wiltshire2282 said:
A car I'm looking at had a failure in 2020, it was rectified and hasn't shown up in the past two MOT'S since.

It was:

Offside Front Outer Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced sill (6.1.1 (c) (i))

Thoughts please.

Thank you.
What did the seller say when you asked them?

JonDerz

156 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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What does the MOT in 2021/2022 if it has one yet say?

Heartworm

1,938 posts

189 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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JonDerz said:
What does the MOT in 2021/2022 if it has one yet say?
In the original post it says it's not mentioned on subsequent MOTs

JonDerz

156 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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Heartworm said:
JonDerz said:
What does the MOT in 2021/2022 if it has one yet say?
In the original post it says it's not mentioned on subsequent MOTs
Gotcha, missed that.

What value is the car? If it’s a cheap shed I wouldn’t really be bothered.

As previously mentioned, really you need to get it on a ramp to have a look. Perhaps it would be easier to look at other cars available?

anonymous-user

82 months

Tuesday 8th November 2022
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Personally I hate the idea of any rust on a car, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

Even if it was a shed, I would go and buy a Renault instead that doesn't rust.


zedx19

3,040 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th November 2022
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Joey Deacon said:
Personally I hate the idea of any rust on a car, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

Even if it was a shed, I would go and buy a Renault instead that doesn't rust.
Not sure if I need a Whoosh parrot here, but a Renault that doesn't rust? Surely you're not serious?

DaveH23

3,355 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th November 2022
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I've used the same garage for as long as I can remember, they have flagged things as advisories in the past which don't get flagged anymore despite nothing being done about them.

Just because it's not listed as an advisory not doesn't necessarily mean anything has been done about it. Aren't alot if the tests down to the opinion of the tester?