Life expectancy
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77 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Gecko1978

12,302 posts

180 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Is the UKs not in the 80s....not great if you are Native American either

Camoradi

4,818 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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I wonder what has happened to cause such a fast decline in the last 3 years....

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

180 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Camoradi said:
I wonder what has happened to cause such a fast decline in the last 3 years....
Lol....errr still Native Americans it's 60s which is not great maybe ask why they live shortest lives (I think it's alcoholism)

Rivenink

4,290 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Might be their dysfunctional, profiteering healthcare system.

People there do not go to the doctor or hospital until it is too late.

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Camoradi said:
I wonder what has happened to cause such a fast decline in the last 3 years....
The collateral damage will be with us for many years. Friend's daughter just diagnosed with GAD, she's only eleven and should be having the time of her life, instead of which she's frightened of most things and can't function at school. Anyone who didn't foresee this happening deserves flogging. smile

Murph7355

40,851 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Is the UKs not in the 80s.......
81 or so.

Rivenink said:
Might be their dysfunctional, profiteering healthcare system.

People there do not go to the doctor or hospital until it is too late.
Possibly.

When outcomes are considered on healthcare systems, I think this is probably one of the ultimate ones smile But other figures do apply (look across the European life expectancy figures versus perceptions on quality of healthcare....

Though what those figures don't/cannot express is "quality of life". Not much point living to 100 if you can do nothing but dribble...

garagewidow

1,502 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Increasing obesity rates are going to be a problem soon if not affecting the data already.

Murph7355

40,851 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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garagewidow said:
Increasing obesity rates are going to be a problem soon if not affecting the data already.
I'd have thought they'd be impacting already, as growing obesity has been a thing for ages.

The NHS is good at mitigating though, it seems. At a cost.

PositronicRay

28,576 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Falling life expectancy whilst uncomfortable (I'm certainly too close for comfort) does sort a few problems.

cgt2

7,299 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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A lot of obese people and in general very poor dietary regime, even everyday foods packed with nasty additives.

Not surprising.

PositronicRay

28,576 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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cgt2 said:
A lot of obese people and in general very poor dietary regime, even everyday foods packed with nasty additives.

Not surprising.
For a while population reduction has been discussed, even good old David Attenborough has been a protagonist.

Would it be climate change, natural disaster, epidemic, man made, sudden or evolutionary? Or is it a case of what goes around comes around.

Edited by PositronicRay on Tuesday 18th October 15:54

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

179 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Remember the most sensitive factor for life expectancy is infant mortality. The US is terrible at it for the vulnerable because of the way their healthcare/support networks work, so they've got to work against that with their.....terrible murder rate, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, junk food....oh.


smn159

15,024 posts

240 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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cgt2 said:
A lot of obese people and in general very poor dietary regime, even everyday foods packed with nasty additives.

Not surprising.
I was over there recently and went to a baseball game and looked for something to eat.

Surprised that I made it out alive TBH eek

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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GroundEffect said:
Remember the most sensitive factor for life expectancy is infant mortality. The US is terrible at it for the vulnerable because of the way their healthcare/support networks work, so they've got to work against that with their.....terrible murder rate, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, junk food....oh.
On the other hand very good health care for those well insured means that what might be stillbirths in other countries often turn into infant mortality.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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This plot is tells a more interesting story as to what’s actually going on. But no one should be surprised by this. What does the equivalent UK breakdown look like?


BabySharkDD

15,078 posts

192 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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smn159 said:
cgt2 said:
A lot of obese people and in general very poor dietary regime, even everyday foods packed with nasty additives.

Not surprising.
I was over there recently and went to a baseball game and looked for something to eat.

Surprised that I made it out alive TBH eek
Every food stall is like an episode of Man vs Food hehe

spikeyhead

19,640 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Uk figures as at 2014 shown below.

source is https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...

Yes, I'm aware it's badly formatted, but still legible.

Table 1: Life expectancy at birth by sex and ethnic group: England and Wales 2011 to 2014
Ethnic group Females Males Sex gap
(years)
Asian
other 86.9 84.5 2.4
Bangladeshi 87.3 81.1 6.2
Black
African 88.9 83.8 5.1
Black
Caribbean 84.6 80.7 3.9
Black
other 86.8 82.0 4.8
Indian 85.4 82.3 3.1
Mixed 83.1 79.3 3.8
Other 86.9 84.0 2.9
Pakistani 84.8 82.3 2.5
White 83.1 79.7 3.4
Ethnic group
gap (years) 5.8 5.2
Source: Office for National Statisitcs

Notes


Electro1980

8,893 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Camoradi said:
I wonder what has happened to cause such a fast decline in the last 3 years....
Lol....errr still Native Americans it's 60s which is not great maybe ask why they live shortest lives (I think it's alcoholism)
Poverty. Alcoholism is nothing more than an effect of poverty. Both absolute and relative poverty are the issues. Those numbers exactly correlate to rates of poverty by race.

The figures graph shows another frightening issue, which is part of the problem. Well, the notation on the graph. Until 2019 Asian and native Americans were not counted separately…

Mortarboard

11,919 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th October 2022
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Covid knocked a chunk off the averages across the globe.

For those getting nervous, this isn't a bad calculator, you can "scroll" up and down your results to see your chances of reaching a certain age. 50% chance of making it to 87, me biggrin

https://www.blueprintincome.com/tools/life-expecta...

(not a site that flogs your info, asks for emails or any of that ste) Probably based on US demographics though.

M.