Tyre advice please

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indiglo

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4 posts

32 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Hi all

I have a BMW X3 M40i (G01) that I bought brand new in 2018.

Every year I have taken this car in for service to be told that my tread is just above the 2mm cut-off. And every year I've had to replace them. I've always let my local BMW dealership sort it out (Edinburgh).

The car came with Bridgestone Alenza 001, and the same tyre has been used for each replacement. That's 3 sets of 4 tyres, each time costing me around £1200.

My car had its first MOT last month and surprise surprise the tyres are at the 2mm cutoff.

For the first time I looked online and found that A LOT of people rate these tyres as rubbish, with a common complaint being they wear away very fast. I wouldn't mind this so much if they performed well but...

In the dry they're fine (for me)
In the wet they're okay, sometimes a bit slippery or very long braking distances
In the snow / ice, absolute rubbish.

SO. I've decided to find my own replacement tyres. My question is on sizing.

Currently, my tyre sizes are as follows:
Front: 245/45 R20 103W XL runflat
Rear: 275/40 R20 106W XL runflat

Finding a tyre that reviews well AND comes in the sizes above AND comes in a runflat variant has proven impossible.

My question is this:
Is it safe to change all four tyres to 255/45? That works out to a sidewall of ~114mm, up from the ~110mm from the Alenza's.

I’m hoping to get a set of all seasons – looking at the Hankook Kinergy 4S2 or Michelin Cross Climate 2s.

Cheers


EDIT:

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So, just to give some context. I drive 6000-8000 miles a year, on motorways and tarmac roads in and around Edinburgh. I very rarely go above 85mph, on average probably 80mph (on motorways, of course).

Occasionally I'll go on country lanes and B roads to get to Skye, Aviemore, Loch Lomand etc, and that would be around 40-60mph. No more than 500-600 miles a year on these trips, combined.


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I keep referring to 2mm “cutoff” because I’ve been repeatedly told that anything below this needs to be replaced in order to pass MOT – so I assumed it was the minimum legal requirement, but based on the responses below, this is clearly not true!


Edit: Updated above to include information from posts I have made further down.


Edited by indiglo on Sunday 2nd October 09:29

Panamax

6,077 posts

48 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Sounds bizarre. I drive big sports cars and have never paid as much as £1k for a set of tyres.

My own tyre preferences are Michelin PS4S and Goodyear Eagle F1.

I recognise that if you want to stick with runflats your choice will be limited.

pills

1,789 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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I've got a X3 335D I always use Michelin Primary 3 19inch, I rotate with 18inch pilot alpine winter. Not sure of the exact milage I get but they do get a hammering but I'm sure I get more than a years equivalent use of of them.

Edited by pills on Saturday 1st October 18:35

indiglo

Original Poster:

4 posts

32 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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So, just to give some context. I drive 6000-8000 miles a year, on motorways and tarmac roads in and around Edinburgh. I very rarely go above 85mph, on average probably 80mph (on motorways, of course).

Occasionally I'll go on country lanes and B roads to get to Skye, Aviemore, Loch Lomand etc, and that would be around 40-60mph. No more than 500-600 miles a year on these trips, combined.

pills

1,789 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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I also find the rears wear faster than the fronts.

Chris32345

2,134 posts

76 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Ditch the run flats

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

37 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Get rid of the run flats. Many more sizes are available with standard tyres plus the ride will improve dramatically. Don't stray away from the standard sizes , the sizes you quoted will fit but there could be implications re insurance..

Pica-Pica

15,145 posts

98 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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You don’t say what rim diameter, and what load or speed rating.
Also, do you want an XL load?, do you want a summer tyre, all season, or do you want a winter set and a summer set? Do you want full off-road capability?

As for me, I have a 335d x-drive on 18” Goodyear EfficientGrip runflats, very comfortable, and low-ish noise. 14k miles and easily less than half worn. I would expect at least 30k miles out of them.

Bridgestones would not be top of my list.

Do they wear down to 2mm in a year? What annual mileage? What is your driving style?

Luis Nazario

36 posts

45 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Hi - I have the M40i, too, and love it. Mine is the OPF model, so has the more muted exhaust in sports mode, unfortunately. How about you?

On the tyres, this might be a very stupid question, but if you went from 275 down to 245, wouldn’t you need to buy narrower wheels, too?

ConnectionError

2,069 posts

83 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Don't buy tyres through the dealer,

Generally they charge much more than dedicated tyre suppliers

escos67

32 posts

84 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Going away from OP any advice on tyres for a 19 plate C63 on 18s. Currently using MPSS which are ok in dry but spin easily in the wet
Thanks in advance

Pica-Pica

15,145 posts

98 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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ConnectionError said:
Don't buy tyres through the dealer,

Generally they charge much more than dedicated tyre suppliers
But not always. My main dealer didn’t.

ConnectionError

2,069 posts

83 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
ConnectionError said:
Don't buy tyres through the dealer,

Generally they charge much more than dedicated tyre suppliers
But not always. My main dealer didn’t.
As I said : - Generally

Vipers

33,251 posts

242 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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If the legal limit is 1.6 why do you have to replace them if they are above 2mm? Just intrigued.

stevieturbo

17,746 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Vipers said:
If the legal limit is 1.6 why do you have to replace them if they are above 2mm? Just intrigued.
Because some people care about wet weather safety, standing water etc etc.

1.6mm is an absolute minimum, some other countries theirs is much higher.

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

37 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Luis Nazario said:
On the tyres, this might be a very stupid question, but if you went from 275 down to 245, wouldn’t you need to buy narrower wheels, too?
There's a range (limited) of width of tyre that will fit a certain size rim. 30mm less would fit but may look a little stretched that's all..

InitialDave

13,123 posts

133 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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275/40R20 and 245/45R20, yes?

Jon from Tyre Reviews often posts in the YouTube thread, you could ask there and see if he has any recommendations.


Vipers

33,251 posts

242 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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stevieturbo said:
Vipers said:
If the legal limit is 1.6 why do you have to replace them if they are above 2mm? Just intrigued.
Because some people care about wet weather safety, standing water etc etc.

1.6mm is an absolute minimum, some other countries theirs is much higher.
Makes perfect sense, thank you for that.

CrgT16

2,292 posts

122 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Seems excessive wear. For the driving style you mentioned and driven miles a set of tyres a year seems too much.

E63eeeeee...

5,023 posts

63 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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If your car is eating a full set of tyres in 6-8000 miles surely there's something wrong. BMWs do have a nasty habit of wearing the inside edges much faster than the rest of the tyres, but I'd be seriously considering getting a proper alignment done, at the rate you're going it might save you a fortune.