WTF Barclays bank working from home?
WTF Barclays bank working from home?
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tight fart

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3,242 posts

289 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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It's quite rare I have to call my bank, if I do I consider it important.
I've just called them, the first person I couldn't understand, it sounded like they had a plastic bucket on their head.
They explained that they were working from home, I said I didn't want to give my security details or discuss it
with someone working from home especially as it sounded like they could be down the pub for all I know.
They said they would transfer me to an office, next handler, also working from home.
And the banks bang on about us keeping our details secure.
I've only had 2 bank frauds attempted on my account over the last 35 years, and one of those was an inside the bank
fraud. The opportunity for that has to increase now.

Countdown

44,938 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Why would them WFH increase the security risk?

Dingu

4,893 posts

46 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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You are overthinking it to be honest. The risk isn’t that different.
If a member of staff was stealing details to commit fraud it wouldn’t take long for it to be linked to them whether they worked at home or in the office once a few cases came to light.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

124 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Why would it be any higher? Call centre staff are given hardware and have to login into secured networks to work. Nothing will be stored locally.

tight fart

Original Poster:

3,242 posts

289 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Countdown said:
Why would them WFH increase the security risk?
For starters your dodgy mate couldn't sit next to you in a branch taking notes.

Freakuk

4,017 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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I think you'll struggle if I'm honest, many high street banks branches in the pandemic were either closed or limited hours, a lot of the branch staff were moved to call centre roles and offered to WFH rather than pay them to sit in an empty branch, high street banking footfall/demand hasn't returned and many branches are closing as a consequence.

The calls get routed via their IVR to the call centre agent, they're using a Bank laptop, using an IP phone/headset on a secure connection just they're not within a bank office. Obviously the speed of their internet connection could be the issue but you're no less secure if they are at home. This will all be GDPR/PCI-DSS compliant and you will need to provide ID&V before you can even discuss any personal details.

Not to forget all calls are recorded.

If you're still not comfortable, you could always pop into a branch.

Edited by Freakuk on Thursday 8th September 13:49

3george

83 posts

54 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.

Dingu

4,893 posts

46 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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3george said:
Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.
Aside from the sacking/conviction and knock on consequences of said sacking/conviction of course.


ZedLeg

12,278 posts

124 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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and you don't think that the person on the phone being the first place that fraud prevention would look would be a deterrent?

I like the idea that the only thing stopping call centre staff ripping you off is that they're not allowed to have their phone on them at work laugh

Freakuk

4,017 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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3george said:
Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.
For PCI-DSS compliance you'll find all PII information and account information will be masked on the screen, likewise when a caller is asked to enter their card number etc, the agent will not hear the DTMF tones, and again this is masked on the screen it is highly unlikely this would breach that compliance.

boyse7en

7,674 posts

181 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Dingu said:
3george said:
Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.
Aside from the sacking/conviction and knock on consequences of said sacking/conviction of course.
That's assuming they can be traced and convicted...


ZedLeg

12,278 posts

124 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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boyse7en said:
Dingu said:
3george said:
Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.
Aside from the sacking/conviction and knock on consequences of said sacking/conviction of course.
That's assuming they can be traced and convicted...
Again, any work they do is in a secured and tracked network. If you complain that your details were stolen after a call, they'll know who you spoke to, for how long and any changes made.

HustleRussell

25,659 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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If my experiences of telephone customer service since the beginning of Covid is anything to go by, you should be grateful that there was somebody there for you to speak to. Presumably UK based too?

This thread is a bit "old man yells at clouds".

bigandclever

14,065 posts

254 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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tight fart said:
The opportunity for that has to increase now.
I suppose we could look at whether it actually has over the last 2 years.

Dingu

4,893 posts

46 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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ZedLeg said:
boyse7en said:
Dingu said:
3george said:
Nothing to stop a bank worker WFH taking photos of customer information on a screen with a mobile phone / or capturing the phone call via a voice-recorder whilst you are on hands-free etc.

In an office this would be more closely controlled and mobile phones typically not permitted on a call centre floor.
Aside from the sacking/conviction and knock on consequences of said sacking/conviction of course.
That's assuming they can be traced and convicted...
Again, any work they do is in a secured and tracked network. If you complain that your details were stolen after a call, they'll know who you spoke to, for how long and any changes made.
Exactly this. Committing fraud in that way would be a very very short lived and silly thing to do.

Countdown

44,938 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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tight fart said:
Countdown said:
Why would them WFH increase the security risk?
For starters your dodgy mate couldn't sit next to you in a branch taking notes.
But I could be taking notes and then giving them to my mate later?

bmwmike

7,918 posts

124 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Countdown said:
tight fart said:
Countdown said:
Why would them WFH increase the security risk?
For starters your dodgy mate couldn't sit next to you in a branch taking notes.
But I could be taking notes and then giving them to my mate later?
You could do that anyway

StevieBee

14,279 posts

271 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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I would like to think that the banks have introduced sufficiently robust security measures for staff WFH but it does raise a point that I don't think has been scrutinised as much as perhaps it should.

Banks tend not to get burgled much these days. Houses, though...?

Dingu

4,893 posts

46 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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StevieBee said:
I would like to think that the banks have introduced sufficiently robust security measures for staff WFH but it does raise a point that I don't think has been scrutinised as much as perhaps it should.

Banks tend not to get burgled much these days. Houses, though...?
Trust me, such things are scrutinised.

An employees laptop wouldn’t be much good on its own, and could be blocked from the network in minutes.

Assuming it had any useful access anyway even if by some miracle your burglar could get into it, as mentioned previously details that would be really useful for fraud are protected and not visible to employees.

QJumper

3,238 posts

42 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Dingu said:
Exactly this. Committing fraud in that way would be a very very short lived and silly thing to do.
People do silly things for money.

Many years ago i worked in a bank, and a teller stole cash from the drawer, over an extended period, even though it could easily be traced back to him.