Am I being silly?
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Jonno02

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2,262 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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I’ve been on the hunt for a car for a month or two now and currently careless.

Criteria has been a petrol Volvo V90, 69 reg and older with less than 20k. Quite a few cars fitting the bill, but most are 250-300 miles away. Common car, so not exactly in a rush.

I’ve spotted an estate e-class that fits the bill, except it’s diesel. I do about 6,000 miles a year…hence the petrol. Most journeys are 5 odd miles a few times a week. With the odd 20-30 mile run in there too. Only one problem with the Mercedes…it’s a 220d. Wife could take it twice monthly 50-60 mile blast up the motorway to her work.

Am I being utterly daft for considering the merc? Looks like a lovely place to be and whilst has way less creature comforts than the Volvo, I have had 2 Volvo S90’s previously and could be tempted with a change.

ZX10R NIN

30,424 posts

153 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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If you've been car less for a while travelling 200-300 miles in one day really isn't a deal breaker.

With your usage either a petrol or petrol hybrid is the pick, how much are you looking to spend?

Edible Roadkill

2,228 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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Always worth travelling for the right car. I’ve done several flights country long and the best test drive home.

georgeyboy12345

4,566 posts

63 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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I wouldn’t buy a diesel if I were you.

Mr Tidy

30,924 posts

155 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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For the use you describe I'd stick with petrol.

Can't you find a petrol Merc?

Spudmaster

351 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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Having gone from a V90 (Cross-Country) to a diesel E-class Estate (E400D); I would say the Merc is the nicer car to drive.
Both have lovely interiors, though quite different from each other. Whilst mine were both AWD; the rear-drive element would win it on the E-class for me - that and the fact that the infotainment isn't a touch-screen.
Either way - both good cars. As said by somebody else - E-class Petrol or PHEV?

Jonno02

Original Poster:

2,262 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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Thanks all for the replies.

I’m going down the dreaded PCP route so it’s all about residual. The diesel E class is also in the low tax bracket, there is a petrol but it’s a year or so older and is in the £500 tax bracket.

blueacid

514 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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5 mile and 20-30 mile journeys will really not suit a diesel. It'll get woeful MPG since it'll almost always be warming up. Plus the DPF will likely be very unhappy too after a while. I'd not be buying any diesel with your use.

I agree with what another poster said; you'd be really well placed to look at something hybrid, or maybe even a plug-in hybrid if you've got a driveway or garage with easy power.
Most of the plug-in hybrids (such as the 330e and others of its ilk) have piddly small batteries, so the complaint often levied against them is that they run for 10-20 miles on battery, run that flat, then they're running a petrol engine to drag around the (flat) battery. OK, it'll still hybrid a bit by regen braking when you slow down & using that power to get going again, but on a run, they're pretty naff.

EXCEPT that your journey profile suits these to a tee! So do consider having a look at one, it might well be worth adding to the shortlist for further consideration!

parabolica

6,996 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Whilst not ideal I've just finished running a 2018 V60 diesel for the last 2.5 years, doing 8k a year. Most journeys were 30 miles roundtrip to work, weekly 60 mile round trip out to dad's and 5-10 miles here and there to the local shops etc. Average MGP was high 30s, which was roughly half of what I would get on the rare, motorway long-runs.

I would have held out for a petrol variant but they were so rare, and the perfect spec came up but with the D4 engine. I really liked the car so don't regret it, but it never sat right with me that I wasn't using the car/engine to it's full potential. In an ideal world I would have gone for a second hand estate like a 9-5 or similar, but I really needed a reliable, turn-key load lugger for a few years and the vast majority in budget were diesels.

That said, no issues with it in the 2.5 years I had it.

Monkeylegend

28,963 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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If it is a BlueTec Merc diesel, ie Euro 6, I would do a bit of research into the adlue and NOx sensor issues before you commit, particularly with your low mileage.

stevemcs

10,201 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
If it is a BlueTec Merc diesel, ie Euro 6, I would do a bit of research into the adlue and NOx sensor issues before you commit, particularly with your low mileage.
Ah, adblue….



Not a merc though

Monkeylegend

28,963 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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stevemcs said:
Monkeylegend said:
If it is a BlueTec Merc diesel, ie Euro 6, I would do a bit of research into the adlue and NOx sensor issues before you commit, particularly with your low mileage.
Ah, adblue….



Not a merc though
Other flavours are available smile

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,263 posts

94 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Jonno02 said:
I’ve been on the hunt for a car for a month or two now and currently careless.

Criteria has been a petrol Volvo V90, 69 reg and older with less than 20k. Quite a few cars fitting the bill, but most are 250-300 miles away. Common car, so not exactly in a rush.
You know they'll deliver right? You're talking about a new, 69 reg car. Just ring them up and have them deliver it to you.
I did that with my current Jag and traded in the old one; no issues. Came from about 200 miles away in the spec I wanted.

Back2theFuji

357 posts

51 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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Agree with others on here. Get a petrol or hybrid model. I drove 2.5 hours to get the car I wanted...there were way more diesels available but didn't suit my profile.

loskie

7,038 posts

148 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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for that low mileage buy a gas guzzler no one else wants. Don't buy one on PCP though. That's a fool's errand on a used car. Get a bank loan or reduce your budget (you are doing hardly any miles) and pay cash.

Belle427

11,761 posts

261 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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If your doing a decent run a few times a month I would think you would be ok but as others have said I’d always lean toward a petrol.
We have run diesels for several years now and do around 8k a year with varied journeys, no real issues to speak of yet.
Problem for me is the petrol equivalents in most normal models lack a bit of useable grunt and the tax gets ridiculous.
Plus when diesels go wrong they tend to go wrong in style.

robemcdonald

9,889 posts

224 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
If it is a BlueTec Merc diesel, ie Euro 6, I would do a bit of research into the adlue and NOx sensor issues before you commit, particularly with your low mileage.
100% this. You can’t even get the £600 replacement part…

Monkeylegend

28,963 posts

259 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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robemcdonald said:
Monkeylegend said:
If it is a BlueTec Merc diesel, ie Euro 6, I would do a bit of research into the adlue and NOx sensor issues before you commit, particularly with your low mileage.
100% this. You can’t even get the £600 replacement part…
There is a guy on the MBUK club forum who has just had a sensor issue with his adblue system, which measures the level of adblue in the tank, and Mercedes have told him it requires a complete new adblue tank, the sensor is inside the tank and not available separately, at a cost of £2k plus.

That is additional to the £600 for a NOx sensor, mentioned by Rob, of which there are two, that are currently on many weeks/months back order.

It is not a question of if, but when, this system causes issues.