Fun used car under £20k, fast 0-60... M240i?
Fun used car under £20k, fast 0-60... M240i?
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London1986

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381 posts

79 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Looking for a fun sporty second car.

We have a family car already so thankfully don’t need to worry about comfort or practicality.

I’m leaning towards the BMWs so far… M140i or M240i.

I did consider the S3 but seems the M240i is better for performance all round. Plus it's to replace my current Audi A5 so although faster, it would seem a bit too similar. The TTS would have been nice but more expensive for less power.

Not a fan of the A45 AMG.

No real criteria other than it has a fast 0-60 time (5 seconds or less) and its around 2015 onwards.

Not a badge snob so open to all car manufacturers.

The Cardinal

1,378 posts

280 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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I ran an S3, which became my “toy” when I unexpectedly gained access to a garage and swapped my wife over to a runabout. It soon became an RS3 - and I suspect a 140i wouldn’t quite be special enough either.

If you like VAG and / or big engines in a family-friendly package then I’d be looking at older RS3 / RS4, Golf R32 etc.

paradigital

1,095 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Fun cars are always more fun when the roof comes off.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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The Cardinal said:
I ran an S3, which became my “toy” when I unexpectedly gained access to a garage and swapped my wife over to a runabout. It soon became an RS3 - and I suspect a 140i wouldn’t quite be special enough either.

If you like VAG and / or big engines in a family-friendly package then I’d be looking at older RS3 / RS4, Golf R32 etc.
I could get a 11-12 plate RS3 for just under £20k but then I can get an 2017 M140i for £16-17k, so to me the BMW seems the better deal

ZX10R NIN

30,424 posts

153 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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If you want a fun drivers car then take a look at the 370Z Nismo, you won't get a 2015 one but you will get a nice one for 20k:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206166...


GT3Manthey

4,745 posts

77 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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London1986 said:
Looking for a fun sporty second car.

We have a family car already so thankfully don’t need to worry about comfort or practicality.

I’m leaning towards the BMWs so far… M140i or M240i.

I did consider the S3 but seems the M240i is better for performance all round. Plus it's to replace my current Audi A5 so although faster, it would seem a bit too similar. The TTS would have been nice but more expensive for less power.

Not a fan of the A45 AMG.

No real criteria other than it has a fast 0-60 time (5 seconds or less) and its around 2015 onwards.

Not a badge snob so open to all car manufacturers.
For your budget a 1.35I I’d say is a cracking buy esp in manual

Just my 2P

Sticks.

9,676 posts

279 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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I went from a 235i to a Mk3 TTS, for lots of reasons, but the ride and handling was the biggest issue. Fewer bhp but the same performance and better mpg (FWIW).

jason61c

5,978 posts

202 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Also, you don’t want to have to look at a one or two series as they’ll make your eyeballs melt

ninjag

1,878 posts

147 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Jaguar XKR 5.0 V8
Vauxhall VXR8

Glenn63

3,865 posts

112 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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I find the 4wd stuff golf R’s, rs3 etc just become point and squirt cars, quick off the line but bit boring.
I wanted something practical, rear drive, decent engine and ended up with an m140 and love it so far.
Used daily and on track, probably won’t win the traffic light gp against an rs3 but it’s fun and can get some good slides out of it.
Iv gone down the Bilstein suspension route with some other bits and it handles very well now. Soon to be around 550bhp also should be a little rocket don’t know what I’d replace it with for the money.
And it can return over 40mpg.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
For your budget a 1.35I I’d say is a cracking buy esp in manual

Just my 2P
Yes I did consider the M135 as i've heard its pretty brutal but then I thought for about £3k more could pick up the more refined m40i.

GT3Manthey

4,745 posts

77 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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London1986 said:
Yes I did consider the M135 as i've heard its pretty brutal but then I thought for about £3k more could pick up the more refined m40i.
Yes you can and maybe worthwhile upgrade.

I drove a nicely spec’s 135i a few years back and was very impressed.

Most won’t have the LSD fitted which makes them a real handful in the wet .

You can get one retro fitted however .

Belle427

11,761 posts

261 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Spend it on an Elise or VX220 if you want fun.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Belle427 said:
Spend it on an Elise or VX220 if you want fun.
Elise would be cool but not for my budget.

I'm coming from a regular 2.0 Audi A5 so all cars mentioned above will be more fun than what I'm currently driving.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
Yes you can and maybe worthwhile upgrade.

I drove a nicely spec’s 135i a few years back and was very impressed.

Most won’t have the LSD fitted which makes them a real handful in the wet .

You can get one retro fitted however .
Yes good point. Funnily enough I was looking at the 135i initially as for the price point, it seemed like a no brainer. It was only when I started doing a bit more research I thought the M140i would make more sense.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Glenn63 said:
I find the 4wd stuff golf R’s, rs3 etc just become point and squirt cars, quick off the line but bit boring.
I wanted something practical, rear drive, decent engine and ended up with an m140 and love it so far.
Used daily and on track, probably won’t win the traffic light gp against an rs3 but it’s fun and can get some good slides out of it.
Iv gone down the Bilstein suspension route with some other bits and it handles very well now. Soon to be around 550bhp also should be a little rocket don’t know what I’d replace it with for the money.
And it can return over 40mpg.
I agree, I'm after something that is fast but also handles really well.

How are you getting it to 550bhp? Is that a stage 1 remap?

Mirinjawbro

1,061 posts

92 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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that will be a hybrid turbo of some sort.

i had a stage 2+ 240i. run a 7 100-200.

all it had a was a 4.5 DP. b58 TU HPFP and MG flasher remap

Hoofy

79,862 posts

310 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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I guess for me it's about what makes it fun. Sure, having lots of power is nice but is that the only criteria for fun? I feel like modern cars feel too safe and cosseted. As someone suggested, having the roof off would make you feel like you're more in contact with the environment.

London1986

Original Poster:

381 posts

79 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Hoofy said:
I guess for me it's about what makes it fun. Sure, having lots of power is nice but is that the only criteria for fun? I feel like modern cars feel too safe and cosseted. As someone suggested, having the roof off would make you feel like you're more in contact with the environment.
Yes I guess there is a degree of subjectivity involved in the word 'fun'. However I'm sure I speak on behalf of many who post on PH that when they're looking for fun cars, they're referring to cars that tend to be fast, good power and good handling. The type of cars you'd take on a track but obviously within your budget.