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pete_esp

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324 posts

118 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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On the ferry recently we were sitting on the top deck when we were interrupted by a loud noise as an aircraft passed from bow to stern of at a hight about the same as the top deck and not too far from us, we watched as the plane banked out and returned to pass astern of us.

Here's a link to the video,

https://youtube.com/shorts/gvHbrG91D_s

Not sure about the regs and rules but this felt a bit risky to me, I pulled the family down off the top deck after that as the plane was turning round to pass astern again.

Thoughts?

hammo19

7,088 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Excellent buzz there.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Coward


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Pilotguy

436 posts

282 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Nice safe couple of hundred feet ahead or astern of the vessel, no problem with minimum height or separation. Fisheries patrol aircraft by the looks of it. UK waters? Could be British or Irish.

SteveStrange

6,595 posts

236 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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The regular cocaine run from Boulogne, flying under the radar innit.

StephenP

1,913 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Pilotguy said:
Nice safe couple of hundred feet ahead or astern of the vessel, no problem with minimum height or separation. Fisheries patrol aircraft by the looks of it. UK waters? Could be British or Irish.
That was my first thought. Maybe Airtask's Caravan II?

https://www.airtask.com/surveillance-and-enforceme...


some bloke

1,518 posts

90 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Thoughts? It would be a much better video if you turned your phone sideways.

Here's one of my favourite videos - a Spitfire low pass. Some swearing, so may be NSFW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOoiEbtf2w


spitfire-ian

4,094 posts

251 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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How would anyone think that was too close? Yes maybe if it was coming straight at you things would be different but there's certainly nothing in that video that would make me want to "pull my family off the top deck"!

Oh and as above, turn your phone to landscape when taking videos!

ecsrobin

18,521 posts

188 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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MarkwG

5,835 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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some bloke said:
Thoughts? It would be a much better video if you turned your phone sideways.

Here's one of my favourite videos - a Spitfire low pass. Some swearing, so may be NSFW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOoiEbtf2w
Cracking video. NSFW - back in the day we used that one at work for teaching air law. Sadly Mr DeCadenet passed away a few days ago.

Edited by MarkwG on Friday 22 July 19:30

DavieBNL

307 posts

86 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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pete_esp said:
Not sure about the regs and rules but this felt a bit risky to me, I pulled the family down off the top deck after that as the plane was turning round to pass astern again.

Thoughts?
Genuinely intrigued as to what you thought might happen? Presumably you thought it may impact the ship? Seems an extreme reaction to me in that circumstance.

Assume this was The English Channel? Every week the media announces another migrant surveillance initiative in that area with both manned and unmanned, civil and military air assetts. And Frontex (European Border Agency) regularly have aircraft of that type along there, did you not consider it might be connected to that? Disregard that idea though if this was off Fishguard (although there probably is a punchline there somewhere!)

pete_esp

Original Poster:

324 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Yeah it's a bit unusual, unusual enough for the captain to seek me out to view the video. I don't think he was best impressed with the aircrafts antics and the crew got a bit excited about it too.

I would've thought the pilot would've been on comms to the captain but he was as clueless as the rest of us.

As for fisheries? Maybe they were checking the French ship wasn't dragging a net behind it?

Location was in the Bay of Biscay so if it was looking for migrants it was for ones that are either REALLY ambitious or really lost.

I just thought it was a bit of a weird one, the plane spotter in me was loving it but the over protective dad bit was "if he gets this wrong we're mince".

Also I am impressed that the separation distance and height can be judged from this video.

I figure it was either a Brittany Ferries Exec out showing their new ship off or a pilot who'd been watching too much Maverick and felt inspired.

rallye101

2,513 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Used to do this coming back to Bournemouth from the channel islands, transponder off and into ground effect dodging boats...Great fun

808 Estate

2,570 posts

114 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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During the Gulf war, I was working on the cross channel ferries. A couple of times we were "buzzed" by a pair of Tornados. The skipper did come on to the PA and warn everyone first though. Amazing sight to see and experience as they barely cleared the mast tops and werent hanging about either..

DavieBNL

307 posts

86 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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pete_esp said:
Yeah it's a bit unusual, unusual enough for the captain to seek me out to view the video. I don't think he was best impressed with the aircrafts antics and the crew got a bit excited about it too.

I would've thought the pilot would've been on comms to the captain but he was as clueless as the rest of us.

As for fisheries? Maybe they were checking the French ship wasn't dragging a net behind it?

Location was in the Bay of Biscay so if it was looking for migrants it was for ones that are either REALLY ambitious or really lost.

I just thought it was a bit of a weird one, the plane spotter in me was loving it but the over protective dad bit was "if he gets this wrong we're mince".

Also I am impressed that the separation distance and height can be judged from this video.

I figure it was either a Brittany Ferries Exec out showing their new ship off or a pilot who'd been watching too much Maverick and felt inspired.
OK, thanks for that additional info, can't offer much insight to what goes on in the Bay of Biscay! I did think the Channel operators were a bit more professional than that. I don't think it was anything "official" and suspect his (more likely) ego was indeed writing cheques, etc....

Have you tried the replay facility on FR24 for that date/time/position (remember it's UTC) - it may come up in the general area as it is very unlikely the whole sortie was done at that height!

pete_esp

Original Poster:

324 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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DavieBNL said:
suspect his (more likely) ego was indeed writing cheques, etc....
I like what you did there, well played!

Good shout on Flight Radar too, I'll look into that

Silver3ides

1,723 posts

248 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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We got buzzed by a RN Merlin from Culdrose last year coming back on the ferry from the the Isles of Scilly,deck level close pass starboard , quick hugh turn around then swooped down the port side , Bloody ace it was .

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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That’s a jetstream 41 (F-HAVF) from French company avdef doing surveillance work, there’s a big black radar underneath it at the front.


DavieBNL

307 posts

86 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Well done, good find - be interesting to hear what he claims to be surveying at that height!

paintman

7,848 posts

213 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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DavieBNL said:
Well done, good find - be interesting to hear what he claims to be surveying at that height!
Nervous ferry passengers.



Edited by paintman on Saturday 23 July 18:23