Inner tread wear and alignment results
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I have an old(2011) Toyota Auris as a runaround however of late the road noise from it at speed has become unbearable.
My garage has disagnosed it as uneven tyre wear and basically replace the tyres(Currenly Uniroyal Rainsport 3s) and all should be good.
Currently a 1mm difference on the inside
I'm a little sceptical just in case it isn't just the tyres so I booked it in for an alignment check and here are the results:
Given that both tyres are wearing on the inside do these results indicate that it could be the camber causing it on one side and the toe on the other or have I literally just got a duff pair of tyres?
My garage has disagnosed it as uneven tyre wear and basically replace the tyres(Currenly Uniroyal Rainsport 3s) and all should be good.
Currently a 1mm difference on the inside
I'm a little sceptical just in case it isn't just the tyres so I booked it in for an alignment check and here are the results:
Given that both tyres are wearing on the inside do these results indicate that it could be the camber causing it on one side and the toe on the other or have I literally just got a duff pair of tyres?
Toe won't cause uneven tyre wear, just the steering wheel to be off centre when driving straight ahead as the wheels will be pulled even due to the road.
The camber is within limits, so unless you are taking the car round a high speed bowl constantly, then that isn't the case either.
What about going back to "real basics" have the tyre pressures been checked?
What are the tyres?
Over how many miles are you seeing the small 1mm difference in wear?
I ask as rainsport 3 are an old tyre, so what is the date stamp on them?
The camber is within limits, so unless you are taking the car round a high speed bowl constantly, then that isn't the case either.
What about going back to "real basics" have the tyre pressures been checked?
What are the tyres?
Over how many miles are you seeing the small 1mm difference in wear?
I ask as rainsport 3 are an old tyre, so what is the date stamp on them?
I've just been through some old paperwork to try and find when I had them fitted...
Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
Gliese said:
I've just been through some old paperwork to try and find when I had them fitted...
Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
Made in December 2015.Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
If they’ve lasted 40k and that length of time you’ve done well. It sounds like the tracking hasn’t really had a negative effect on them as they’re usually a very soft tyre that wears away in a breath.
It’s possible the tyres might have gone hard with age; they’re not exactly new.
Has the road noise issue stopped with the tyre change?
A diagnosis of an "unbearable" road noise from worn tyres....seems more than just a tad ridiculous.
Unless tread is actually peeled off and flapping off bodywork.
the majority of that report shows green...indicating very little wrong.
If indeed there is an "unbearable" noise....find a competent mechanic who can diagnose it.
Unless tread is actually peeled off and flapping off bodywork.
the majority of that report shows green...indicating very little wrong.
If indeed there is an "unbearable" noise....find a competent mechanic who can diagnose it.
stevieturbo said:
A diagnosis of an "unbearable" road noise from worn tyres....seems more than just a tad ridiculous.
Unless tread is actually peeled off and flapping off bodywork.
the majority of that report shows green...indicating very little wrong.
If indeed there is an "unbearable" noise....find a competent mechanic who can diagnose it.
We had noise like a wheel bearing about to expire in spectacular fashion, and REALLY LOUD. Couldn't find the issue, rear tyres were a bit old and replaced them. Noise went away. Tyres were "stepped" apparently.Unless tread is actually peeled off and flapping off bodywork.
the majority of that report shows green...indicating very little wrong.
If indeed there is an "unbearable" noise....find a competent mechanic who can diagnose it.
Demelitia said:
Gliese said:
I've just been through some old paperwork to try and find when I had them fitted...
Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
Made in December 2015.Date stamp is 4915.
It looks like they were fitted in 2016 and I really struggle to believe this is true but they have 40k on them. 4mm left on the inside and 5mm centre/out.
I can see from some work in 2019 the measurements were also out. 6.7out/5.6 mid/5 in
Tyres are all inflated to spec.
If the tyres were that far out in 2019 and I had no issue with road noise perhaps the diagnosis is wrong and it could be a bearing?
If they’ve lasted 40k and that length of time you’ve done well. It sounds like the tracking hasn’t really had a negative effect on them as they’re usually a very soft tyre that wears away in a breath.
It’s possible the tyres might have gone hard with age; they’re not exactly new.
Has the road noise issue stopped with the tyre change?
It sounds like you my have had your money out of them & a replacement & alignment adjustment could be the way forward.
E-bmw said:
You still don't say how many miles you have done on them & what tyres they are?
It sounds like you my have had your money out of them & a replacement & alignment adjustment could be the way forward.
Sorry I included it on the previous posts but maybe I wasn't clear enough.It sounds like you my have had your money out of them & a replacement & alignment adjustment could be the way forward.
Uniroyal Rainsport 3's and they've done about 40k to the best of my knowledge.
You're right though they don't owe me anything and seems like the next logical thing to replace, alignments just been done.
I just wanted to add the outcome to this, I had all 4 tyres replaced today and the noise still remained 
Contrary to my local indy garages diagnosis I took it back to them to confirm it wasn't the tyres.
After their inspection again they confirmed it was a faulty hub which was what I suspected all along.
To add insult to injury this was the same hub that they replaced for me 3 years ago, and 15k miles later so I'm very disappointed that it has failed again and apparently the warrenty offered is only 2 years.
I had it replaced through gritted teeth and finally the noise has gone!
Contrary to my local indy garages diagnosis I took it back to them to confirm it wasn't the tyres.
After their inspection again they confirmed it was a faulty hub which was what I suspected all along.
To add insult to injury this was the same hub that they replaced for me 3 years ago, and 15k miles later so I'm very disappointed that it has failed again and apparently the warrenty offered is only 2 years.
I had it replaced through gritted teeth and finally the noise has gone!
Which bearing keeps wearing out? The rear toe is uneven which means the rear will continuously steer the car a little. That has to be countered at the front which will continuously load one front wheel. I might expect a little extra front right outside edge tyre wear and the front bearing to go early. Do you find that you are always steering a little one way to drive straight?
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