National Insurance increase to £12,570 - impact on pension
National Insurance increase to £12,570 - impact on pension
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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

228 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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So the news and law change now moving national insurance up to £12,570 mirroring the starting point of income tax.

This apparently removes 2 million from paying any National insurance - Yay some may think.

However for state pension you need qualifying years all 35 of them which means paying NI for each of those years, or if looking after a child up to 12yo or a few other examples.
But for those not in that exception list and who earn less than £12.570 and I not right in now flagging that those individuals unless they earn more will not gain qualifying years resulting in a lower state pension when retirement arrives?

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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Good question, never thought about the change in that way.

worsy

6,610 posts

205 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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Jasey_ said:
https://www.rights4seniors.net/content/qualifying-...

Apparently it's something called lower earnings limit that qualifies as a qualifying year.

Have to earn more that 6.5k or something like that.

Good question though and no doubt more complicated than the link explains smile
This

Gov link here https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/your-national...

Welshbeef

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228 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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worsy said:
It does say “you may get a qualifying year if you earn£”

Why is it MAY / what could mean you don’t if you want between those values.

worsy

6,610 posts

205 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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Welshbeef said:
worsy said:
It does say “you may get a qualifying year if you earn£”

Why is it MAY / what could mean you don’t if you want between those values.
I'm googling this but the answer appears to be here

https://www.litrg.org.uk/tax-guides/students/going...

You need 52 weeks x lower earnings threshold or weeks where credit is made to meet the requirement.

98elise

32,730 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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My partner fell foul of this while working part time, and not earning enough to pay NI.

She is now having to make it up with voluntary contributions for those years, at a rate equivalent to a much higher salary.

It grates when people on benefits get a full NI credit with zero contribution, but working on a low wage you don't.

trickywoo

14,236 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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It’s worth giving careful thought to topping up vs putting the money in a sipp or Isa.

Depending on your age now it’s possible you’ll need to be 70+ to collect it with no guarantee on its value at the time.

At least with a sip you can get it 10 years before a state pension, at the moment.