Strip Piquet of his World Championships

[anonymous-user]

Piquet clearly knew what he was doing when he used the racist comments against Hamilton. It’s time to take action against people like this. The FIA should show some leadership suspend his World Championships pending an enquiry that establishes the facts - shouldn’t take long - then if guilty of such disgraceful racist comments kick him out and take away his Championships. Everyone in the future will know he was a racist

Isn’t this the same guy who questioned Senna’s sexuality and insulted Mansell wife?

We race as one or maybe not as action against racists is just too difficult ?

[Stick Legs]

Disagree on the stripping of his World Championship victories.

Agree that there should be a sanction of some kind, and given how much former drivers enjoy attending LeMans / Goodwood / Monaco then being sent to Coventry by the world of motorsport should be more than enough.

As a cycling fan the (legitimate) stripping of Lance Armstrong’s victories has opened a huge can of worms as everyone else at the time was doping and if that’s the case then did he win ‘fairly’?


Lets say we did strip Piquet of his victories.

So we award 1981 to Carlos Reutemann.
Do Brabham keep the constructors championship?

Or what if we award 1983 to Alain Prost, but he turns out to have been a homo-phobe.

1987 is easy because Nigel Mansell should have won it anyway & they both drove for the same team.

Sport is sport. It’s practiced by some unpleasant people sometimes and bankrolled by worse.

Piquet is a nasty piece of work if the reports are true, but he was also a great driver and won three World Championships.

The Silver Arrow Mercedes & Auto-Union teams have a far more problematical hinterland but I would be sad not to see them run.

[StevieBee]

Stick Legs said:

Disagree on the stripping of his World Championship victories.

Agree that there should be a sanction of some kind, and given how much former drivers enjoy attending LeMans / Goodwood / Monaco then being sent to Coventry by the world of motorsport should be more than enough.

This.

The guy's a long-retired racing driver. What would stripping him of the titles actually mean? He still won them fair and square, the books have been printed and the records exist.

Casting him out would I think serve as a greater punishment. All former WDCs are given a lifetime 'red pass' to all GPs (basically a go-anywhere pass). Remove that and that will hurt more).

[DanielSan]

StevieBee said:

Stick Legs said:

Disagree on the stripping of his World Championship victories.

Agree that there should be a sanction of some kind, and given how much former drivers enjoy attending LeMans / Goodwood / Monaco then being sent to Coventry by the world of motorsport should be more than enough.

This.

The guy's a long-retired racing driver. What would stripping him of the titles actually mean? He still won them fair and square, the books have been printed and the records exist.

Casting him out would I think serve as a greater punishment. All former WDCs are given a lifetime 'red pass' to all GPs (basically a go-anywhere pass). Remove that and that will hurt more).

All of the above.

[rdjohn]

…. But denying him access to the paddock is perfectly reasonable, in the circumstances.

He should not be doing commentaries for Brazilian TV etc etc

If “we race as one” meant anything then, F1 and FIA need to be seen to act swiftly and decisively against such sentiment.

I would also like to see Max come out and call it for what it is.

[Petrus1983]

What he said is disgusting - but removing his titles doesn’t mean anything, he won them. Banning him from the paddock is much more appropriate and I hope it happens.

[Munter]

Petrus1983 said:

What he said is disgusting - but removing his titles doesn’t mean anything, he won them. Banning him from the paddock is much more appropriate and I hope it happens.

This really. No access to anything connected with the FIA. No need to "undo" the past, just change the future. The man should be an irrelevance. Make it so.

[Munter]

rdjohn said:

I would also like to see Max come out and call it for what it is.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

[GCH]

Stripping? No. Pointless and not proportionate or relevant.
Persona non grata from all F1 & FIA events? Yes.

Many people already knew back in the day that he was an asshole with the stuff re: senna, Mansell & Mansell's wife and other stuff.
This incident just means more people now know he was - and is - asshole.

[TheDeuce]

StevieBee said:

Stick Legs said:

Disagree on the stripping of his World Championship victories.

Agree that there should be a sanction of some kind, and given how much former drivers enjoy attending LeMans / Goodwood / Monaco then being sent to Coventry by the world of motorsport should be more than enough.

This.

The guy's a long-retired racing driver. What would stripping him of the titles actually mean? He still won them fair and square, the books have been printed and the records exist.

Casting him out would I think serve as a greater punishment. All former WDCs are given a lifetime 'red pass' to all GPs (basically a go-anywhere pass). Remove that and that will hurt more).

I agree too. He won the titles by being a good racing driver, not for being a good person.

I agree some form of sanction as he's in the public eye and such behaviour should be made an example of - but it has nothing to do with his sporting achievements. If you start taking away recognition for what people have done right just because they also did something wrong, then anyone that has ever done something wrong would basically have zero motivation to do anything right.. Deal with the poor behaviour in isolation is best imo. We don't have to try and delete the guy from history.

[cgt2]

Petrus1983 said:

Banning him from the paddock is much more appropriate and I hope it happens.

That didn't seem to work for Flav!

[TheDeuce]

Munter said:

rdjohn said:

I would also like to see Max come out and call it for what it is.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

A bit hard to call one person out for very poor behaviour... and then welcome his Dad into paddock at the next race.

In any case, I genuinely don't think Max has any interest in mixing his F1 life or interview time with anything other than his current job in F1. If he doesn't express a view, I strongly suspect it's because he hasn't got one. As opposed to when he does have a certain opinion about something actually in F1, and then he expresses himself very clearly, in a variety of ways.

[Petrus1983]

cgt2 said:

Petrus1983 said:

Banning him from the paddock is much more appropriate and I hope it happens.

That didn't seem to work for Flav!

This is controversial and shouldn’t de rail things - but I think what NP has said is worse than FB. It’s 2022 ffs.

Flav massively overstepped the mark - but he did go from mega team boss to next to nothing as far as F1 was concerned.

Weird how the Piquet name is linked to both though

[PhilAsia]

Petrus1983 said:

cgt2 said:

Petrus1983 said:

Banning him from the paddock is much more appropriate and I hope it happens.

That didn't seem to work for Flav!

This is controversial and shouldn’t de rail things - but I think what NP has said is worse than FB. It’s 2022 ffs.

Flav massively overstepped the mark - but he did go from mega team boss to next to nothing as far as F1 was concerned.

Weird how the Piquet name is linked to both though

Apple/Tree

I have not seen Piquet's comment, but it seems he is a great driver lackkking intellect. Let his titles stand, but let his current input in F1 fall.

[cgt2]

Petrus1983 said:

This is controversial and shouldn’t de rail things - but I think what NP has said is worse than FB. It’s 2022 ffs.

Flav massively overstepped the mark - but he did go from mega team boss to next to nothing as far as F1 was concerned.

Weird how the Piquet name is linked to both though

Flav only gave the outward impression of taking a back seat. His closeness to BE meant he was always well plugged in behind the scenes.

Even more ironic that both FB and Piquet are both super close chums of Bernie..hmmm

[Petrus1983]

PhilAsia said:

Apple/Tree

I have not seen Piquet's comment, but it seems he is a great driver lackkking intellect. Let his titles stand, but let his current input in F1 fall.

'The n***** put the car in the wrong way and didn't let [the other driver swerve].

'The n*****. put the car in the wrong way on the corner, it's because you don't know the curve.

[Sandpit Steve]

Certainly strip him of his 2022 paddock pass, subject to F1 receiving an official translation of his comments.

One stupid comment today, is not deserving of taking away someone’s sporting achievements from decades earlier, that’s just silly. He’s not Lance Armstrong, who admitted cheating to win.

[Red9zero]

I'm no Hamilton fan, but Piquet needs kicking out of F1 for those comments. It will be interesting to see if Verstappen makes a statement at the weekend.

[Petrus1983]

Sandpit Steve said:

Certainly strip him of his 2022 paddock pass, subject to F1 receiving an official translation of his comments.

One stupid comment today, is not deserving of taking away someone’s sporting achievements from decades earlier, that’s just silly. He’s not Lance Armstrong, who admitted cheating to win.

Brazilian media are saying it’s a commonly used word. Not so sure. But agree with what you’ve just said.

[vdn]

Always been a scumbag. The likes of him and wifebeater, Jos... funny that they are all 'family'. Birds of a feather...