Alleged Organ Harvesting plot
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Caddyshack

13,858 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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I bet it has happened more times than we would care to think though.

MesoForm

9,708 posts

298 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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How would it even work in the UK? Am I being naïve or would it require so many trained operating theatre staff, equipment, changes to the organ donor recipient register, etc that it would need a fully staffed underground hospital somewhere?

TriumphStag3.0V8

5,086 posts

104 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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MesoForm said:
How would it even work in the UK? Am I being naïve or would it require so many trained operating theatre staff, equipment, changes to the organ donor recipient register, etc that it would need a fully staffed underground hospital somewhere?


Seriously though, that story is barbaric.

oddman

3,859 posts

275 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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MesoForm said:
How would it even work in the UK? Am I being naïve or would it require so many trained operating theatre staff, equipment, changes to the organ donor recipient register, etc that it would need a fully staffed underground hospital somewhere?
I'm a medic and can't make head or tail of this I've just posted on Doctor.net thread title 'Trafficking for organ harvesting WTF?'

Organ transplantation requires organ and donor matching.

Organ storage and transportation

Cross matched blood

Needs anaesthetist and surgeon and associated health care professionals

Needs machines including bypass machines where necessary.

Pre and post operative nursing care

Transplantation for private patients does occur in the NHS eg no UK donor match for an organ or organ not suitable for UK/NHS use, Arab flies in and pays for a kidney, liver etc. on NHS

And above all else letting the kid die under anaesthesia and disposing of the body in full view of the other clinicians involved in the harvest procedure.

Probable double figures of doctors involved in a transplant and at least twice that many associated health professionals. I know Nigerians have a reputation for being dodgy but this is pushing the boat out.





arguti

1,847 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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It happened in South Africa in netcare hospital(s), one of the largest private group of hospitals in South Africa and until fairly recently, netcare also happened to run BMI, one of the largest group of uk private hospitals.

As above poster mentions, the number of people that must have been involved…..let that sink in. Key is that it’s not just the surgery, the enormous resources required for matching compatible donors etc.

https://sherloc.unodc.org/cld/case-law-doc/traffic...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11725536


Edited by arguti on Friday 24th June 06:27

numtumfutunch

5,089 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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I initially saw this and thought WTF but the fact their daughter needs a kidney 'kind of' brings sense to it

Not an expert however would the following work?

Kid is a random and basic blood tests already say a decent match
London private hospital so not NHS
Bullst cover story of how kid is related to donors family
Brown envelopes all round for doctors stuffed with £££££££
Or maybe not to above and its all legit usually with real consenting donors?????
Hospital gets paid and asks no questions
Kids loses one kidney but is sent back home with the other and an Airfix model for their trouble

Cheers

oddman

3,859 posts

275 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Apparently they were on their way to Istanbul

https://punchng.com/uk-court-denies-ekweremadu-wif...

This is the only case I know of dodgy transplantation in the UK



Edited by oddman on Thursday 23 June 23:01

CharlieCrocodile

1,227 posts

176 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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oddman said:
I'm a medic and can't make head or tail of this I've just posted on Doctor.net thread title 'Trafficking for organ harvesting WTF?'

Organ transplantation requires organ and donor matching.

Organ storage and transportation

Cross matched blood

Needs anaesthetist and surgeon and associated health care professionals

Needs machines including bypass machines where necessary.

Pre and post operative nursing care

Transplantation for private patients does occur in the NHS eg no UK donor match for an organ or organ not suitable for UK/NHS use, Arab flies in and pays for a kidney, liver etc. on NHS

And above all else letting the kid die under anaesthesia and disposing of the body in full view of the other clinicians involved in the harvest procedure.

Probable double figures of doctors involved in a transplant and at least twice that many associated health professionals. I know Nigerians have a reputation for being dodgy but this is pushing the boat out.
You're over thinking it.

Where these people come from life is cheap, almost worthless. The number of steps to harvest will be 2 maybe 3.

Jim the Sunderer

3,261 posts

205 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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oddman said:
Apparently they were on their way to Istanbul
Istanbul, of course.

I can appreciate how they value their daughter's life so much they won't have it done by a bent surgeon in Nigeria.