Is it time for the UK to introduce ID cards?
Poll: Is it time for the UK to introduce ID cards?
Total Members Polled: 197
Discussion
Another poster on the asylum thread raised the idea that ID cards would be a tangible benefit in identifying and managing asylum seekers and an aid to immigration. Not wanting to focus on the use of cards as a way of managing asylum seekers (there’s already a thread for that) but how would the PH massive feel if the government again floated the idea of ID cards for all?
I seem to remember there was a huge furore when the Blair government tried to implement them and many right leaning folk where vehemently against them for civil liberties reasons amongst others but has that attitude changed? I mean we carry drivers licences around without much thought but how’d you feel about mandatory carrying of a government issued ID card?
For me? I feel they’re not necessary and we’ve managed long enough without them but times do change so should we?
I seem to remember there was a huge furore when the Blair government tried to implement them and many right leaning folk where vehemently against them for civil liberties reasons amongst others but has that attitude changed? I mean we carry drivers licences around without much thought but how’d you feel about mandatory carrying of a government issued ID card?
For me? I feel they’re not necessary and we’ve managed long enough without them but times do change so should we?
Civil liberties? I think ID cards wouldbe irrelevant. We have just seen how easily our civil liberties can be removed. For a period of time I was a criminal if I went more than 5 miles from my house.
As I saw elsewhere on twitter the civil rights lawyers are having a field day about Rwanda but were silent when we were banned from seeing our dying relatives or going to their funeral.
You could get a serious criminal charge by going hillwalking and some did.
http://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2021/02/06/the-cri...
In 21st century Scotland I needed to avoid the police when going for a walk. What civil liberties?
As I saw elsewhere on twitter the civil rights lawyers are having a field day about Rwanda but were silent when we were banned from seeing our dying relatives or going to their funeral.
You could get a serious criminal charge by going hillwalking and some did.
http://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2021/02/06/the-cri...
In 21st century Scotland I needed to avoid the police when going for a walk. What civil liberties?
Edited by irc on Saturday 18th June 20:16
grumbledoak said:
dvs_dave said:
It’s routine to have ID cards or drivers license’s serving as such in most countries. Not sure what the objection to them is tbh. Do you not already have a passport or a drivers license, which are effectively one and the same?
You can live just fine with neither.I’d be fine with a ID card. Hardly any different to what we have as already mentioned.
The Rotrex Kid said:
Unless you want to drive, or leave the country, or borrow money, or buy a house. Lots of restrictions if you don’t have photo ID of one of those types.
I’d be fine with a ID card. Hardly any different to what we have as already mentioned.
What does the ID card license you to do?I’d be fine with a ID card. Hardly any different to what we have as already mentioned.
grumbledoak said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Unless you want to drive, or leave the country, or borrow money, or buy a house. Lots of restrictions if you don’t have photo ID of one of those types.
I’d be fine with a ID card. Hardly any different to what we have as already mentioned.
What does the ID card license you to do?I’d be fine with a ID card. Hardly any different to what we have as already mentioned.
It could allow you to prove your ID for
Benefits
Jobs
Purchasing alcohol/fags/knives
Help your body be ID’d if you were killed in an accident
Carry your blood type/allergies
Have a datachip with your next of kin etc
frisbee said:
We should just chip people, like cats or dogs.
I don't think we are that far from it.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-57...
The Rotrex Kid said:
Unless you want to drive, or leave the country, or borrow money, or buy a house, or get a job. Lots of restrictions if you don’t have photo ID of one of those types.
dvs_dave said:
Perhaps. But not if you want to drive a car, get on a plane, get a loan, rent/buy a house, open a bank account, or travel beyond our borders. I suppose if you can do without such things, you’ll be fine.
Drive, well, yes, you need a driving license to drive. And you need a passport to leave the country. Neither of those are obligatory.You do not need them to get a job, open a bank account, rent or buy a house or anything else. There are alternative ways to prove your identity.
dvs_dave said:
It’s routine to have ID cards or drivers license’s serving as such in most countries. Not sure what the objection to them is tbh. Do you not already have a passport or a drivers license, which are effectively one and the same?
Both of which are required for the privilege of driving in the UK and entering a different country.And neither am I required to produce walking down the street.
Electro1980 said:
Drive, well, yes, you need a driving license to drive. And you need a passport to leave the country. Neither of those are obligatory.
You do not need them to get a job, open a bank account, rent or buy a house or anything else. There are alternative ways to prove your identity.
You won’t get finance on a car or a mortgage without a passport or drivers license. You do not need them to get a job, open a bank account, rent or buy a house or anything else. There are alternative ways to prove your identity.
Nearly every employer will require some form of photo ID when applying/starting a job. You also need a photo ID to open a bank account with a mainstream bank. You can probably go with one of the online only ones, but you’ll have to jump through a lot of hoops if you haven’t got a passport or drivers license.
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