'Enough is Enough - Park them up'
Discussion
This campaign seems to be gathering momentum (no pun) on my SM feeds recently - Started by a few haulage companies.
They are suggesting that if all the transport companies just 'parked them up', not blockading or anything, just don't bother driving them for 3 days and it would bring the country to its knees.
No date has been set as far as i can see, but at last count it had been shared over 2000 times.
I have been quite surprised that there hasn't been something organised before now - I remember everyone up in arms when we went over £1 a litre a few years back!
Do you think this is the best option? any other ideas? would just 3 days of no deliveries really bring the country to its knees?
They are suggesting that if all the transport companies just 'parked them up', not blockading or anything, just don't bother driving them for 3 days and it would bring the country to its knees.
No date has been set as far as i can see, but at last count it had been shared over 2000 times.
I have been quite surprised that there hasn't been something organised before now - I remember everyone up in arms when we went over £1 a litre a few years back!
Do you think this is the best option? any other ideas? would just 3 days of no deliveries really bring the country to its knees?
1) what would it achieve? Cost of fossil fuels isn't controlled by HMG (and duty/VAT is becoming less relevant as oil costs go up).
2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
donkmeister said:
1) what would it achieve? Cost of fossil fuels isn't controlled by HMG (and duty/VAT is becoming less relevant as oil costs go up).
2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
Fuel duty and VAT are more than half the cost of a litre of fuel. To say there's nothing the Gov't can do is absurd.2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
tload of backpay is due to more than a few folk…Funk said:
donkmeister said:
1) what would it achieve? Cost of fossil fuels isn't controlled by HMG (and duty/VAT is becoming less relevant as oil costs go up).
2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
Fuel duty and VAT are more than half the cost of a litre of fuel. To say there's nothing the Gov't can do is absurd.2) do people in the haulage industry not require food, fuel, toilet paper and so on? Because they'd be bringing themselves to their knees too.
Yes it's annoying, yes some people are probably doing very well out of this. My bigger bugbear is the companies who say "a price index has increased, therefore we're putting up our prices". That's not how price indices are meant to work, all you are doing is creating a feedback loop!!!
A short term measure to deal with a crisis in the 70's,......
blade7 said:
MightyBadger said:
Idiots, like the rail folk.
They only get £55k basic, for 35 hours sitting on their backsides. Re train drivers pay though, what do you think would be a fair wage? Yes, they are well paid, but so they should be, in my view. They work unsociable hours, spend a lot of time in solitude, have direct responsibility over the lives of many thousands of people every day, and also can expect to see someone die, horribly messily, right in front of them roughly once every 10 years, and deal with the mental health implications that go with it. Given all that, £55k doesn't sound particularly extortionate to me.
We deliver to local shops/petrol stations.
Most get daily deliveries, if not then every 2/3 days.
Our depot runs 7 days a week, and only closes for Christmas/Easter. 5 days in total throughout the year.
It's mainly milk, alcohol, bread, yogurts and other food items.
3 days will see most shops running close to empty. Especially in the public start panicking.
Most get daily deliveries, if not then every 2/3 days.
Our depot runs 7 days a week, and only closes for Christmas/Easter. 5 days in total throughout the year.
It's mainly milk, alcohol, bread, yogurts and other food items.
3 days will see most shops running close to empty. Especially in the public start panicking.
I get that it makes life difficult for the haulage industry but our haulage contractor have added a fuel surcharge to our pricing so they are passing the increased fuel price on.
We will then pass the additional cost on so its the consumer that pays it in the end with the final price they pay for the product they buy as part of inflation.
Its very hard increasing prices by 10%+ but you either do it or suck up the price rise yourself for as long as you can and hope you have enough cash in the bank to survive.
We will then pass the additional cost on so its the consumer that pays it in the end with the final price they pay for the product they buy as part of inflation.
Its very hard increasing prices by 10%+ but you either do it or suck up the price rise yourself for as long as you can and hope you have enough cash in the bank to survive.
Limpet said:
It's not the drivers striking. Wrong union. The strikers are the platform workers, maintenance people (who have to clean up the brains and body fat from suicides among other things), and few earn anything like £55k.
Re train drivers pay though, what do you think would be a fair wage? Yes, they are well paid, but so they should be, in my view. They work unsociable hours, spend a lot of time in solitude, have direct responsibility over the lives of many thousands of people every day, and also can expect to see someone die, horribly messily, right in front of them roughly once every 10 years, and deal with the mental health implications that go with it. Given all that, £55k doesn't sound particularly extortionate to me.
On that basis how much do you think Nurses, Police and Fire Crew are worth ?Re train drivers pay though, what do you think would be a fair wage? Yes, they are well paid, but so they should be, in my view. They work unsociable hours, spend a lot of time in solitude, have direct responsibility over the lives of many thousands of people every day, and also can expect to see someone die, horribly messily, right in front of them roughly once every 10 years, and deal with the mental health implications that go with it. Given all that, £55k doesn't sound particularly extortionate to me.
It's an easy job with minimal skills required - if you sacked the lot of them and advertised the job at £30k I'm sure you'd have no issue filling the vacancies
If you don't like your job / pay, find a better one - the point with all the Union jobs is that they can't find a better one so they try to extort money by going on strike - it's 2022 FFS !
KTMsm said:
On that basis how much do you think Nurses, Police and Fire Crew are worth ?
It's an easy job with minimal skills required - if you sacked the lot of them and advertised the job at £30k I'm sure you'd have no issue filling the vacancies
If you don't like your job / pay, find a better one - the point with all the Union jobs is that they can't find a better one so they try to extort money by going on strike - it's 2022 FFS !
Said every pratt for the last 30 years.It's an easy job with minimal skills required - if you sacked the lot of them and advertised the job at £30k I'm sure you'd have no issue filling the vacancies
If you don't like your job / pay, find a better one - the point with all the Union jobs is that they can't find a better one so they try to extort money by going on strike - it's 2022 FFS !
Welcome to the outcome of driving lower paid workers standard of living into the ground.
KTMsm said:
Limpet said:
It's not the drivers striking. Wrong union. The strikers are the platform workers, maintenance people (who have to clean up the brains and body fat from suicides among other things), and few earn anything like £55k.
Re train drivers pay though, what do you think would be a fair wage? Yes, they are well paid, but so they should be, in my view. They work unsociable hours, spend a lot of time in solitude, have direct responsibility over the lives of many thousands of people every day, and also can expect to see someone die, horribly messily, right in front of them roughly once every 10 years, and deal with the mental health implications that go with it. Given all that, £55k doesn't sound particularly extortionate to me.
On that basis how much do you think Nurses, Police and Fire Crew are worth ?Re train drivers pay though, what do you think would be a fair wage? Yes, they are well paid, but so they should be, in my view. They work unsociable hours, spend a lot of time in solitude, have direct responsibility over the lives of many thousands of people every day, and also can expect to see someone die, horribly messily, right in front of them roughly once every 10 years, and deal with the mental health implications that go with it. Given all that, £55k doesn't sound particularly extortionate to me.
It's an easy job with minimal skills required - if you sacked the lot of them and advertised the job at £30k I'm sure you'd have no issue filling the vacancies
If you don't like your job / pay, find a better one - the point with all the Union jobs is that they can't find a better one so they try to extort money by going on strike - it's 2022 FFS !
My main issue with this truck idea would be wastage tbh. If fresh food deliveries were held up to the point where the produce can't be sold then presumably the food would go to waste?
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff