Tory Leadership Contest?
Discussion
Assuming the 'no confidence' vote is the start of the end for Boris, who do you think could make a go of being the next Prime Minister?
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I have a feeling he would rather have this now as it’s likely he will survive today. Another few weeks he might have gone but I don’t think he will today.
If he doesn’t he can’t be challenged for another year unless they change the rules.
I think he will stay in although I would like him to go, he’s woeful.
If he doesn’t he can’t be challenged for another year unless they change the rules.
I think he will stay in although I would like him to go, he’s woeful.
Plenty now shooting their bolt at the fact Boris is facing a leadership vote, the BBC especially after rounding up a few people to boo during the jubilee, but its likely that Boris will gain an easy win out of this, which will shut down all the opposition press on the issue of party-gate and put a big fly in their "rejoin the EU" ointment.
The ball will then be in Starmer's court where he will be shivering in fear of what the police may do in terms of his potential beer-gate fine.
The ball will then be in Starmer's court where he will be shivering in fear of what the police may do in terms of his potential beer-gate fine.
It was would be nice if it was someone a bit boring. I’d love to see a move away from s
t flinging personality based politics.
Whilst I’m unlikely to vote Tory, some focus on actual policies for the next couples of years from both sides would be great…rather than the “not that guy” system we have right now.
t flinging personality based politics.Whilst I’m unlikely to vote Tory, some focus on actual policies for the next couples of years from both sides would be great…rather than the “not that guy” system we have right now.
Pitre said:
I sincerely hope we'll have a new leader soon, he's an embarrassment. The reason he won so handsomely at the last election was because he wasn't Corbyn. We now need a serious, statesmanlike leader with gravitas and integrity.
Geoffrey Cox the former attorney General? He definitely has the gravitas bit...GroundZero said:
Plenty now shooting their bolt at the fact Boris is facing a leadership vote, the BBC especially after rounding up a few people to boo during the jubilee, but its likely that Boris will gain an easy win out of this, which will shut down all the opposition press on the issue of party-gate and put a big fly in their "rejoin the EU" ointment.
The ball will then be in Starmer's court where he will be shivering in fear of what the police may do in terms of his potential beer-gate fine.
That's an interesting takeThe ball will then be in Starmer's court where he will be shivering in fear of what the police may do in terms of his potential beer-gate fine.
I particularly enjoy the way you blame the BBC for the jubilee booing.
I'd have thought the opposition parties would prefer Johnson to stay on after this.
There's plenty of discussion around that being the case.
JeffreyD said:
I'd have thought the opposition parties would prefer Johnson to stay on after this.
There's plenty of discussion around that being the case.
This, I'd suggest. Boris is toxic and given the sThere's plenty of discussion around that being the case.
tshow of an opposition that we currently have, he is Labour's biggest asset.Most Tory MPs who can see past the party whip will want Boris out of the way before the next election, as he is currently the only real reason they won't romp home again next time. So from that perspective, the opposition quite like him being where he is and the Tories just need somebody else, anybody else, to remove the taint of Johnson from the party leadership.
JeffreyD said:
That's an interesting take
I particularly enjoy the way you blame the BBC for the jubilee booing.
I'd have thought the opposition parties would prefer Johnson to stay on after this.
There's plenty of discussion around that being the case.
Regarding the booing, something that is causing a debate in itself wider afield than on here. There is already an online comparison of BBC's coverage and Sky New's coverage of Boris' arrival to St Paul's. I particularly enjoy the way you blame the BBC for the jubilee booing.
I'd have thought the opposition parties would prefer Johnson to stay on after this.
There's plenty of discussion around that being the case.
Here are some clips from one youtube vid doing the rounds:
Sky News coverage .. https://youtu.be/3fnLoIr9KIY?t=113
BBC coverage .. https://youtu.be/3fnLoIr9KIY?t=59
There is a clear difference in the level of booing, one is prominent and the other is barely audible if at all.
As this is politics, this then becomes a matter of political swing as to how much booing was actually present, or from where it originated and whether there was an plan to orchestrate such by the likes of the BBC, Sky, or otherwise.
I jibe in my previous post to an extent, but the microphones that the BBC used to capture booing, orchestrated to some extent or not?
Depending on your politics, this is either a yes or a no. Either way Boris now faces a confidence vote, by which I think it will be an easy win for him.I was a fan of boris for putting the brexit issue to bed, but since then he's done little for me as a traditional centre-right predominantly conservative voter. So I'm in two minds whether he is the right person to be appearing before the public in the next general election. The party really needs a proper conservative policy maker, rather than one that panders to the shouty crowds and basically attempts to be a "yes" man for the typical media narratives.
768 said:
Without Johnson in the running I'd think Gove might be in with a decent shout, maybe Raab. Rarely is it the favourite which is some consolation.
No one to look forward to.
As pointed out on the other thread it will have to be someone who stands firm on Brexit and Immigration, otherwise they won't be accepted by the ERG faction of MPs.No one to look forward to.
If they can find someone like that who can play with a straight bat then they can easily turn it round before the general election.
It's a depressing and distressing state of affairs.
I'm very much a conservative, but I'm not likely to vote for them with Mr Johnson at the helm. It's not just the bimbling buffoonery, the lies, deceit and dishonesty - it's the total lack of any purpose or direction. I have no idea what he or the party intend to do about the economy, housing, health, etc.
I can't think of anyone, from any party, that I have confidence could handle or manage the big issues over the next few years/decades.
I'm very much a conservative, but I'm not likely to vote for them with Mr Johnson at the helm. It's not just the bimbling buffoonery, the lies, deceit and dishonesty - it's the total lack of any purpose or direction. I have no idea what he or the party intend to do about the economy, housing, health, etc.
I can't think of anyone, from any party, that I have confidence could handle or manage the big issues over the next few years/decades.
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