Russian Submarine Rescue

[jimbeaux]

The UK & US are enroute to try and save the Russian mini-sub caught in a net. Good luck and prayers to them; I can't imagine being stuck on the bottom in any sub, much less a mini sub. I believe I heard them say that it is designed for 4 people, but is carrying 7. Again, good luck & Godspeed to the sailors and rescuers.

[rich 36]

Been reading the news about the offers of help etc, and remember the Kuersk events.
hope they've learnt a bit more about diplomacy for those poor sods' sake.

[minimax]

being trapped in a sub is probably my worst nightmare...even worse than being lectured in giftware by vixpy1, although obviously that comes close but in terms of absolute butt clenching terror it would be being enclosed underwater awaiting a grim death...

[hustlebabe]

Must be the worst nightmare situation anyone could be in. We have all been following this and it seems the wretched 'tub' wasn't fit for the job. Hosts of unreliabilty problems and suitabilty for this task.
Horror story

[silverback mike]

Any further news yet?

[alexkp]

I sincerely hope the Russians are sensible about this and accept the help offered.

[bilko2]

anonymous said:

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just shows how much i know. I thought the russians were our mates now. Kind of
Anyway i was also thinking of ways to rescue them today.
Trying to snare the net and raising the whole thing over 12 hours ( or required for that depth. Or sending some guys down on rebreathers ( my mates a leading diver ( experimenter ) with these things. Then hacking through the net.
Anyway, i hope they survive.

[luca brazzi]

Is there no way of replenishing the air using an external connection?

[planetdave]

How heavy can this bloody net be?

If it don't sink a trawler then shirley a decent sized ship can grapple it and drag it to the surface for an easy rescue

Or I could be talking via my arse

[Ballistic Banana]

planetdave said:

How heavy can this bloody net be? If it don't sink a trawler then shirley a decent sized ship can grapple it and drag it to the surface for an easy rescue Or I could be talking via my arse

They tried to grab the net with anchors from othher boats apparently to no avail ....yet

[jimbeaux]

I started this post saying the sub was hung up in a net(that is what the news was saying). Now I heard something about it being stuck in an antenna cable....whatever, just hope they save those poor fellows.

[v8 westy]

some trawl nets are miles wide and very heavy, the russian ships dragging anchors will make the situation worse for when the british or american navy arrive with the rovs!

but after the kuersk you can understand the russian govt. wanting to be seen to be doing something, but at least they have requested help this time!

[s2art]

This really is Thunderbirds/International Rescue stuff. Looks like the Brits got their Thunderbird 4 there before the Yanks. Makes a change from us Brits being seen as Captain America's sidekick . Lets hope they succeed.

[ATG]

Lo, it has been done:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm

Nets? ... itchy chin ... snagged by an underwater antenna, said to be part of a "coastal monitoring system".

Would be interesting to know what that was. Conventional radio antennas don't work under water, and what would they be monitoring other than shipping movement? Sounds like they chose to put security to one side in order to save their men, which is rather heartening.

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[simpo two]

Good news indeed, well done RN.

NB: PHer Heliox is a pro diver - I expect the sub will come up with a 'Speed MAtters' sticker on it

[Ace-T]

Glad to hear they are OK and quite chuffed that it was our Navy that rescued them.

Ooh quick LA, write the script now before someone else in Hollywood does it and the Americans rescue them!

Ace-T

[Eric Mc]

I read the book on the Kursk accident a few months ago and the Royal Navy were ready to go help within HOURS of the accident. Even though the Russians did not officially notify the worrld that one of their subs was in trouble for hours, the US Navy and the Royal Navy knew almost straight away as seismic and acoustic sensors picked up the detonation of the front end of the Kursk immediately, Triangulation of the data allowed the location of the explosion to be found pretty accurately and they knew that it had to be the Kursk. The Russians refused any offers of outside help until it was too late.

It looks tike the Russians learned a good lesson. Well done the RN.

[silverback mike]

simpo two said:

Good news indeed, well done RN. NB: PHer Heliox is a pro diver - I expect the sub will come up with a 'Speed MAtters' sticker on it

"Depth matters"
Well done chaps, being an ex submariner that hit the bottom once, makes me shudder a bit thinking of them 200m down. Not a nice place to be.
Good on the RN too, it's amazing what a bit of gaffer tape will do with a good crew behind it. Nice to see we are still 'leaders'.

[LRdriver II]

"A senior navy official, Vladimir Pepelyayev, said all the men were in a satisfactory condition."


Satisfactory enough to stand trial and be executed for compromising national security and making Russia lose face internationally he means...

[LongQ]

From a BBC report -

"The Scorpio was accompanied by an operating crew of eight civilians and one Royal Navy member - as well as 20 other staff, including British police officers."

Has silverback mike been travelling again?

I can understand a Naval guy being there with the civilians 'cos that is how the protocol works - but where do the police fit in?