Baby P’s mother to be paroled.

[poo at Paul's]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61332...

Surely the court’s ruling that the parole boards decision to release this piece of st again, (last time she breached conditions and was back in clink pronto) on the basis that it was not ‘irrational’ is a bit of an oxymoron considering the terms of her release, ie tagged, curfew, declare relationships, avoid certain areas and people, and 20 separate licensing requirements!
If it is only safe to release her under such conditions, surely she should be locked up?

[ChemicalChaos]

I agree, she ought to stay inside.
However, as usual we are desperately short of prison spaces, especially since the government keeps thinking up new things to be imprisoned for but not building any more jails

[Derek Smith]

The parole board would have followed their guidelines, controlled by the government one way or another. The woman was jailed for a minimum of 5 in 2009. She was released, and then sent back. It is not 13 years since the original sentence, but still Raab wants to make political capital out of it. He's blaming them for following his (and his predecessors') directions.

That's dishonest. I know there's an election and every vote counts, but a bit there's a limit.

One of the reasons we can't sentence those who deserve long periods of incarceration is, as hinted at above, the number of prisoners we have, most of whom could be better (and more cheaply) dealt with other forms of punishment. This would free up space for those who deserve to be inside for longer.

The killing of a 17-month child, either by action or inaction, especially in the circumstances of this case, should be punished properly.

That said, 13 years for a killing is about the norm.

[poo at Paul's]

Derek Smith said:

The parole board would have followed their guidelines, controlled by the government one way or another. The woman was jailed for a minimum of 5 in 2009. She was released, and then sent back. It is not 13 years since the original sentence, but still Raab wants to make political capital out of it. He's blaming them for following his (and his predecessors') directions.

That's dishonest. I know there's an election and every vote counts, but a bit there's a limit.

One of the reasons we can't sentence those who deserve long periods of incarceration is, as hinted at above, the number of prisoners we have, most of whom could be better (and more cheaply) dealt with other forms of punishment. This would free up space for those who deserve to be inside for longer.

The killing of a 17-month child, either by action or inaction, especially in the circumstances of this case, should be punished properly.

That said, 13 years for a killing is about the norm.

And yet, she is only to be released with 20 licence restrictions. Which suggests to most of us that we’d all be safer if she was locked up still.
As I pointed out, and you confirmed, she was released before, broke the rules and went back in. It’s not like she can be trusted really.

[KAgantua]

Andre the Giant has let himself go...

[ralphrj]

ChemicalChaos said:

However, as usual we are desperately short of prison spaces, especially since the government keeps thinking up new things to be imprisoned for but not building any more jails

Apart from the new "super" prison that just opened in Wellingborough and the one being built in Leicestershire and the 4 others planned.

[anonymous-user]

ralphrj said:

ChemicalChaos said:

However, as usual we are desperately short of prison spaces, especially since the government keeps thinking up new things to be imprisoned for but not building any more jails

Apart from the new "super" prison that just opened in Wellingborough and the one being built in Leicestershire and the 4 others planned.

Maybe we can throw the bh off the top of one of these new prisons, and save everyone a lot of bother.

[Carl_Manchester]

poo at Paul's said:

If it is only safe to release her under such conditions, surely she should be locked up?

And lose all the keys.