Is Mick Schumacher any good?
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Well, is he ?? Not seeing seeing much of Dad`s talents their, not the focus, the self centred hard bitten ,mean resolution, calculating every option & scenario, using every inch of his whit .
Good results in lower formula do not always count for everything , I`m not sure Mansell won anything in the lower levels, other examples I`m sure, but I digress,
The question stands.....
Good results in lower formula do not always count for everything , I`m not sure Mansell won anything in the lower levels, other examples I`m sure, but I digress,
The question stands.....
I asked this question just before his first season in F1. He won F2 through consistency without ever being spectacular in the way that some of his predecessors were, or Piastri last year. He has seemed competitive compared to his team mates so far in F1, but then given the quality of his team mates prior to this year, you would expect that. There are people in the paddock far better than me to judge though 
K-Mag says he’s legit, I tend to believe him. Although apart from his great talent of causing total carnage, he didn’t really show anything this year. The car is easy top 10, now we just have to wait and see if he can score some points. I may be wrong but only him and Latifi didn’t score so far.
The fact that K-Mag is wiping the floor with him after 2 year on his couch is interesting to say the least
The fact that K-Mag is wiping the floor with him after 2 year on his couch is interesting to say the least
So far I'm reminded of Bruno Senna. Before he moved to Lotus/Renault I had a chat with a senior engineer and they were expecting great things of him pretty much all based on his closeness in times to Button when he tested the Honda. As in Mick's case the HRT did not give any representative idea of his pace. The thinking was he'd be great in a more competitive car.
The move to Williams I felt was driven as much by the emotional bond Frank had to Ayrton as it was by pure pace.
As always the stopwatch does not lie. I hope he does improve but it looks like he's squandering his opportunities.
The move to Williams I felt was driven as much by the emotional bond Frank had to Ayrton as it was by pure pace.
As always the stopwatch does not lie. I hope he does improve but it looks like he's squandering his opportunities.
Edited by cgt2 on Monday 2nd May 09:43
AJB88 said:
I've followed Mick through F3 and F2 and ROC, wrote last year off but was hoping for points finishes this season and so far very disappointing, Think any chance of a Ferrari seat has well and truly gone now.
A lot of people at Ferrari today worked with his Dad and there is also a very strong emotional and family connection there. In an ideal world for them Mick would have been alongside Leclerc in a couple of years.I think Sainz getting a new contract tells us that is very unlikely now.
cgt2 said:
A lot of people at Ferrari today worked with his Dad and there is also a very strong emotional and family connection there. In an ideal world for them Mick would have been alongside Leclerc in a couple of years.
I think Sainz getting a new contract tells us that is very unlikely now.
Yep, I cant see it happening now, best he can hope for is the testing role full time. Unless he suddenly finds form and gets points. I think Sainz getting a new contract tells us that is very unlikely now.
He is, as others are, taking a seat that could be taken by someone that is better suited. He is not F1 material IMHO.
Although I was not a fan of his father - because of his propensity to cheat when two options were apparent - Mick will never reach the amazing skills shown by the great Michael when he chose the sporting route.
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Now for the long answer: He’s obviously a capable driver, but is he F1 material? Debatable.
Is he top team material? Seems highly unlikely at this stage.
Will he ever win a championship? Well I suppose Leicester won the premiership, so crazy things do sometimes happen.
I would caveat this all with one point though. He has always needed two seasons to get used to a championship. This might be his second season in F1, but the rule change has reset everything. Maybe he’ll do better next season. Of course, the top drivers don’t need a year to acclimatise to a car.
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Now for the long answer: He’s obviously a capable driver, but is he F1 material? Debatable.
Is he top team material? Seems highly unlikely at this stage.
Will he ever win a championship? Well I suppose Leicester won the premiership, so crazy things do sometimes happen.
I would caveat this all with one point though. He has always needed two seasons to get used to a championship. This might be his second season in F1, but the rule change has reset everything. Maybe he’ll do better next season. Of course, the top drivers don’t need a year to acclimatise to a car.
Nampahc Niloc said:
I would caveat this all with one point though. He has always needed two seasons to get used to a championship. This might be his second season in F1, but the rule change has reset everything. Maybe he’ll do better next season. Of course, the top drivers don’t need a year to acclimatise to a car.
George Russell didn't need one race. That's the scale of chasm between the two of them.vaud said:
Zarco said:
I think he's more of a Ralf (who was good, just not one of the greats).
That's roughly my view. He's okay, but not a future WDC.Perhaps not quite even that good, or maybe kmag is just way better than we thought or has taken particularly well to the car.
If Mick gets beaten soundly by him all year then that will leave his future looking pretty bleak. The name will still likely hold enough value to get him a seat somewhere low down if one opened up.
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