Talented UK female racers on the podium at Oulton Park today
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A very Impressive win by Jessica Hawkins in the 2nd TCR race today at Oulton Park.
First UK female driver to take a win in a Touring Car race, Leading from Start to finish, and with safety car restarts. Worth a watch on YT.
Also Jessica Edgar finishing second in the 3rd GB-4 race. Another close contested race worth a watch.
Nice to see talented UK female racers getting to the front.
First UK female driver to take a win in a Touring Car race, Leading from Start to finish, and with safety car restarts. Worth a watch on YT.
Also Jessica Edgar finishing second in the 3rd GB-4 race. Another close contested race worth a watch.
Nice to see talented UK female racers getting to the front.
There is a reason why ladies do not win, and it is nothing whatsoever to do with equality, strength or ability, it is simply a far smaller talent pool, meaning those that do break through so far have been good, but not good enough to be winning so much at that level.
Eventually there will be a woman who dominates say F4, F2 GP3 GP2 and will get into a decent WEC drive or F1 and become the standard bearer. So far that has not even been close to happening.
But it wil happen one day.
Eventually there will be a woman who dominates say F4, F2 GP3 GP2 and will get into a decent WEC drive or F1 and become the standard bearer. So far that has not even been close to happening.
But it wil happen one day.
In related news, Sophia Floersch was in second place in this weekend's European Le Mans Series race as well (in a team of 2 rather than the 3 that most other teams had).
As always, motor racing is a rich (wo)man's game, one of the drivers of the winning car in that race is literally the scion of an empire....
As always, motor racing is a rich (wo)man's game, one of the drivers of the winning car in that race is literally the scion of an empire....
LukeBrown66 said:
There is a reason why ladies do not win, and it is nothing whatsoever to do with equality, strength or ability, it is simply a far smaller talent pool, meaning those that do break through so far have been good, but not good enough to be winning so much at that level.
Eventually there will be a woman who dominates say F4, F2 GP3 GP2 and will get into a decent WEC drive or F1 and become the standard bearer. So far that has not even been close to happening.
But it wil happen one day.
Indeed, it’s mostly a numbers game, and starts with getting girls as well as boys into karts aged 7 or 8. Eventually we will get female champions as a result. Eventually there will be a woman who dominates say F4, F2 GP3 GP2 and will get into a decent WEC drive or F1 and become the standard bearer. So far that has not even been close to happening.
But it wil happen one day.
Well done to all the ladies who stood on podiums this weekend.
One name to watch - Juju Noda, 16-year-old Japanese kart champion and F4 racer, competing in W Series this year and likely FIA F3 next season. She’s my favourite to be the next woman in an F1 car.
Active75 said:
A very Impressive win by Jessica Hawkins in the 2nd TCR race today at Oulton Park.
First UK female driver to take a win in a Touring Car race, Leading from Start to finish, and with safety car restarts. Worth a watch on YT.
Also Jessica Edgar finishing second in the 3rd GB-4 race. Another close contested race worth a watch.
Nice to see talented UK female racers getting to the front.
Based on real pace, rather than the advantage of a reverse grid format (and a tricky overtaking track), I'd say that Megan Gilkes is the one to watch in GB4 this year. Qualified well.First UK female driver to take a win in a Touring Car race, Leading from Start to finish, and with safety car restarts. Worth a watch on YT.
Also Jessica Edgar finishing second in the 3rd GB-4 race. Another close contested race worth a watch.
Nice to see talented UK female racers getting to the front.
The Iron Dames all-female crew ran competitively in the ELMS at Paul Ricard also, and a little unlucky not to get a podium.
As said by others, there is no reason why a female should not be able to compete directly, they can fly fighter jets, so driving a racing car should be easy, I think personally it is getting closer and closer to seeing a really talented girl right up there, we have a good crop in all sorts of disciplines right now.
I have seen young girls dominate in short oval racing I watch, a few years ago it was not out of the ordinary for girls to win every race in a night of races for the junior category, so there is a precedent already, albeit in a very low budget, contact based formula on short oval tracks, but it is fabulous to see, and the main thing you take from it, is not that they are young lasses, but they and after a while, you as a fan just see them as brilliant drivers, which is what it is all about
I have seen young girls dominate in short oval racing I watch, a few years ago it was not out of the ordinary for girls to win every race in a night of races for the junior category, so there is a precedent already, albeit in a very low budget, contact based formula on short oval tracks, but it is fabulous to see, and the main thing you take from it, is not that they are young lasses, but they and after a while, you as a fan just see them as brilliant drivers, which is what it is all about
I have had the discussion about this before with people and I think comparing drag racing to say Le Mans is a bit like comparing darts to the 3000m steeplechase.
Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
LukeBrown66 said:
I have had the discussion about this before with people and I think comparing drag racing to say Le Mans is a bit like comparing darts to the 3000m steeplechase.
Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
yes but F1 drivers dont need to brag about how fast they live their lives and at one quarter mile at a time Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
LukeBrown66 said:
I have had the discussion about this before with people and I think comparing drag racing to say Le Mans is a bit like comparing darts to the 3000m steeplechase.
Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
Yes dead easy is racing a top fueller . But oddly enough , while I'd happy jump into a single seater and display my total lack of ability I'd not get in a top fueller for all the tea in China ....Yes they are both sports, but one requires a level of fitness and training, another requires no fitness and training.
Drag racing can be take up by anyone, any age pretty much, you could be in your 70's and still drive a top fuel drag car, now I do not mean that it is not skillful, it is, I have seen it numerous times and they are not easy to drive, but really, the skill needed to compete at a decent level in drag racing is not the same as it would be at say Le Mans or F1 level.
Nitro182 said:
At Santa Pod over the Easter Weekend we had Ida Zetterstrom and Sussanne Callin compete in Top Fuel dragster , the fastest motorsport in the world !
The guys and gals who do Top Fuel, are totally, certifiably bonkers. Watch the light, then hold tight! 5g (>100mph/sec) on the launch, and not dropping off much for the next five seconds, before the ‘chutes come out and you get almost the same in reverse! Navy pilots flying fast jets from carriers don’t see those forces.
Again I did not say driving one was easy, far from it, I simply mean it takes less skill to drive one, hence pretty much anyone with the bravery and skills to do drag racing can do it, with the right finances.
Not anyone can do some other things in motorsport.
What it has done however, is introduce women into the upper echelons of a motorsport, Muldowney, Seeling, Force, Averstetd, all champions in top level world motorsport. Against very well backed teams too.
It's just not driving the Col De Turini in a snowstorm in a Quattro on slicks or trying to lap quickly at the Nordschliefe in a Viper at 2am!
Not anyone can do some other things in motorsport.
What it has done however, is introduce women into the upper echelons of a motorsport, Muldowney, Seeling, Force, Averstetd, all champions in top level world motorsport. Against very well backed teams too.
It's just not driving the Col De Turini in a snowstorm in a Quattro on slicks or trying to lap quickly at the Nordschliefe in a Viper at 2am!
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