Why is EUR weakening against GBP?
Why is EUR weakening against GBP?
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LimaDelta

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7,943 posts

241 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Over the last 18 months or so, the EUR has been steadily declining against the GBP. Can anyone explain in layman's terms why this is the case? Is it simply our faster recovery from Covid? Brexit bounce?

JuanCarlosFandango

9,555 posts

94 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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In very layman's terms, supply and demand. As to what is driving it I suspect a combination of the things you mention plus the European Central Bank printing more money and holding interest rates at 0 while the BoE has raised them slightly.

roger.mellie

4,640 posts

75 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
In very layman's terms, supply and demand. As to what is driving it I suspect a combination of the things you mention plus the European Central Bank printing more money and holding interest rates at 0 while the BoE has raised them slightly.
Yip not that I’m an expert. The question should probably be in the finance forum along with the cost of living thread query on why the BoE is raising interest rates. The UK seems to be following the Fed to avoid imported inflation vs the dollar which seems sensible to me for all I know. I haven’t paid enough attention to the EU but probably should as our payroll is in both EUR and GBP and most of our earnings are in dollars (US and CAD).

pquinn

7,167 posts

69 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Lots of factors involved but the idiot sitting atop the ECB certainly isn't helping.

Puggit

49,441 posts

271 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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I'm paid in USD, live in the UK (with a mortgage), but also have a mortgage to pay in Euros. I've been very happy over the last few months!

LimaDelta

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7,943 posts

241 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Puggit said:
I'm paid in USD, live in the UK (with a mortgage), but also have a mortgage to pay in Euros. I've been very happy over the last few months!
I'm paid in EUR (have been for 14 years now), live in the UK and have a GBP mortgage to pay. I am less happy. hehe

DeejRC

8,711 posts

105 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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You should be ecstatic Lima, Brexit reversed the exorbitant climb that happened for the 5yrs prior.
As it happens, I’ve posted chapter and verse about this in the Euro thread over the years. The very simple bottom line is that not a single systemic factor which drove the previous rise to 1.45 has changed since the post Brexit reset in the rates. Ergo the rates were always going to see GBP rising against the EUR again.
Like you I also earned in EUR and had costs in GBP and I restructured the business at the start of this year to move away from that. I suspect that the end of 2022 will see the rate at 1.25. I personally think that the nature rate is around 1.2 and that anything much above that is too strong for the GBP.

LimaDelta

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7,943 posts

241 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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DeejRC said:
You should be ecstatic Lima, Brexit reversed the exorbitant climb that happened for the 5yrs prior.
It certainly did, at least, the fear of what might happen seemed to be priced in. The fact that none of that materialised now looks to be showing in the rate.



roger.mellie

4,640 posts

75 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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LimaDelta said:
DeejRC said:
You should be ecstatic Lima, Brexit reversed the exorbitant climb that happened for the 5yrs prior.
It certainly did, at least, the fear of what might happen seemed to be priced in. The fact that none of that materialised now looks to be showing in the rate.
Stupid decisions are possible. I have/had the choice to peg my wage in euros or pounds. I pegged it in euros just before the gfc and in pounds just before brexit. I’ve no regrets but felt pretty stupid at both times. In the end I got fed up with my wage not being paid in my cost of living currency and just went with pounds and from a personal wage perspective could not care less what the rate is, I prefer the predictability. It’s not worth worrying about on that score but I’m aware of and know many cross border workers who watch the rate like a hawk and micro manage their bank transfers.

stongle

5,910 posts

185 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
In very layman's terms, supply and demand. As to what is driving it I suspect a combination of the things you mention plus the European Central Bank printing more money and holding interest rates at 0 while the BoE has raised them slightly.
ECB rate is negative. -0.5%. Not 0.


DeejRC

8,711 posts

105 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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roger.mellie said:
LimaDelta said:
DeejRC said:
You should be ecstatic Lima, Brexit reversed the exorbitant climb that happened for the 5yrs prior.
It certainly did, at least, the fear of what might happen seemed to be priced in. The fact that none of that materialised now looks to be showing in the rate.
Stupid decisions are possible. I have/had the choice to peg my wage in euros or pounds. I pegged it in euros just before the gfc and in pounds just before brexit. I’ve no regrets but felt pretty stupid at both times. In the end I got fed up with my wage not being paid in my cost of living currency and just went with pounds and from a personal wage perspective could not care less what the rate is, I prefer the predictability. It’s not worth worrying about on that score but I’m aware of and know many cross border workers who watch the rate like a hawk and micro manage their bank transfers.
Roger...why do you think almost every single working (British) ex pat I know of voted for Brexit?
Its called understanding money. I make no claim to being able to understand, or even know, finance - in the technical aspects - as Stongle does, but understanding money, especially when you have multiple streams in different currencies, is utterly fundamental to being able to run a cross border business and life.
Its why I get irked by those who don't do any of the above, but feel they can preach at those of us who do about how it all works.

Theraveda

400 posts

51 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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DeejRC said:
Roger...why do you think almost every single working (British) ex pat I know of voted for Brexit?
Its called understanding money.
Actually, it's called a category error.

roger.mellie

4,640 posts

75 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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DeejRC said:
Roger...why do you think almost every single working (British) ex pat I know of voted for Brexit?
Its called understanding money. I make no claim to being able to understand, or even know, finance - in the technical aspects - as Stongle does, but understanding money, especially when you have multiple streams in different currencies, is utterly fundamental to being able to run a cross border business and life.
Its why I get irked by those who don't do any of the above, but feel they can preach at those of us who do about how it all works.
Cos they were idiots? Joking but I could tell you a tale about ex pats not knowing what way their bread was buttered. I know you likely know more than me on that. I like playing the fool and understand a bit more about money or exchange rates than I was letting on but I'll never claim to be an expert and have had my fingers burned. As said I'm mostly concerned about the US and CAD exchange rate these days, the dumbass me that pegged his pay in the wrong currency at the wrong time is still a dumbass but I can live with that shame smile.

GilletteFan

672 posts

54 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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It's to stop all the people from leaving.

Weak Euro means reduced capacity to resettle abroad, determine salaries and increases the number of Chinese tourists to Paris to buy Chanel bags.