Broken down. Advice needed

Broken down. Advice needed

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belfry

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1,002 posts

197 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I hit a pothole 20 miles ago and I am really thought damn is that another low profile tyre needed?

I’m currently in a petrol station and I am down to 15 psi on that tire. I have put more air in and I am keeping an eye on the level. At the moment it seems to be holding steady, but clearly I have not moved anywhere for a while.

I attach a photo of the tyre cap with the end blown off, presumably by the force of the impact to the tiye earlier.

My question is, is it possible to hit a pothole, have some deflation yet not have an obvious puncture? I cannot see any bulges on the side wall either on the outside or the inside.

Many thanks

soad

33,941 posts

191 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I carry two cans of Holts Tyreweld in the boot. Just in case they do come in handy/I need them. Punctures are a major pita. frown

mickyh7

2,347 posts

101 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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OK, this is nasty.
Get some 'Spit' lots of it on your finger, and put it in the end of your tyre valve. If you see bubbles then it is leaking. Easy to replace.
No bubbles then the leak is elsewhere.
Good Luck!

h0b0

8,689 posts

211 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I hit a pot hole hard on the way to meet my wife. My kids described coming out of the hole as making the car fly. It was brutal. I lost 20 psi instantly and assumed the rest was going soon after.. But, after filling the tyre up, it kept pressure.

The next issue the wheel was now causing the steering to vibrate. Assuming it destroyed the wheel, I took it to be checked out. They found it to be with in spec and showed me the missing weights that had come off in the "Accident".

For size reference, this was my Cayenne so not a small/light car.

gotoPzero

19,063 posts

204 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I have never seen a tyre valve blow out the cap so I suspect that might just be coincidence.

As for the air loss then yes you can lose air and the bead stay intact - but its rare.

Its more likely you have cracked the wheel on the inside rim.

How far left to drive?

If not far stick 40-45psi in it and head home.

If 100s miles maybe consider putting your spare on.


gotoPzero

19,063 posts

204 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I suspect whats happened with the valve cap is when you have hit the hole the valve stem (rubber) has flexed and smacked itself off the inside of the wheel rim cracking the top of the cap which has then slung off.


belfry

Original Poster:

1,002 posts

197 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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I did get to where I was going. Thanks for the support on here.

The car is an 07 Quattroporte so no spare available. I called the AA to be safe. They couldn’t find any bulges, cracks or leaks from the rim or the valve. And the tyre was holding pressure.

I’ve just driven 80 miles and there was no loss in pressure since I added some air about 2-3 hours ago.

So I can only guess that the pothole broke the bead (where the tyre meets the alloy) momentarily and I lost almost 20 psi in that moment. I had not realised that this was possible.

Anyway it’s good to have arrived safely and I’m not still waiting for a transporter that’s due to arrive in the early hours, so this oddly feels like a ‘result ‘. Let’s see what the tyre pressure is in the morning.

QJumper

3,238 posts

41 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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A few months ago I hit a kerb and, after arriving home a couple of miles later, saw that the tyre was almost totally flat. It was late, dark and snowing, so I squirted a can of tyre seal and reinflated. Next morning took it to a tyre place and got them to take the wheel off and check, and they said there was no sign of any wheel or tyre damage. Being paranoid, next time I took the car into the garage I also got them to take off the wheel and check, and they also said all was fine. I've done about 2000 miles since and have kept an eye on the pressure and it only loses about 2-3 psi every few weeks.

Fiammetta

411 posts

103 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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Wheels are left buckled .That’s why the leak , loose pressure to various degrees .Only answer is new wheel .Most peeps are oblivious and just periodically inflate the offending tyre as and when .Never wonder why its only one .

Caddyshack

12,511 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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I would take that wheel and tyre to a good tyre shop, get them to ideally take it off and check the inner carcass but at the very least re-balance it.

M_A_S

1,441 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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What was the tyre pressure of that tyre just before you hit the hole?

Equus

16,980 posts

116 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Fiammetta said:
Wheels are left buckled ...Only answer is new wheel.
It's also possible that the wheel may have cracked.

Depending on your budget, slightly buckled wheels can be straightened and cracked rims can be welded - there are companies who specialise in this sort of work - so you may not need to resort to purchasing a new wheel.

You may be able to claim against the local Highways Authority for the damage caused, if you can identify the pothole to them.

E-bmw

11,061 posts

167 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Both your loss of pressure & the end of the cap missing COULD just be coincidental.

Unless you checked both immediately before hand they could have both been like that for some time and you only now know it due to checking.

Even with the end off the cap (which is only really a dust cap) the tyre should be capable of holding pressure.

Yes, I do know that valves can leak before anyone jumps down my throat, hence why I used the word SHOULD.

belfry

Original Poster:

1,002 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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M_A_S said:
What was the tyre pressure of that tyre just before you hit the hole?
I checked the tyre pressures at lunchtime yesterday and the tyre in question was 32psi then. Around 15psi after pothole.

I blew the tyre up to 37psi the garage and it held pressure during the next 80 miles. It was 36psi this morning, but the loss in 1 psi might be due to the cold tyres this morning.

I thought that a cracked alloy would most likely not hold pressure like this?

QBee

21,729 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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belfry said:
I checked the tyre pressures at lunchtime yesterday and the tyre in question was 32psi then. Around 15psi after pothole.

I blew the tyre up to 37psi the garage and it held pressure during the next 80 miles. It was 36psi this morning, but the loss in 1 psi might be due to the cold tyres this morning.

I thought that a cracked alloy would most likely not hold pressure like this?
The loss of 1 psi will be cold versus hot. My tyres gain 6-8 psi with 15 laps from cold on a track day. You have just done the reverse, IFSWIM.