Ayrton Senna would have been 62 today
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cgt2 said:
Enjoyed that...Thank youcgt2 said:
PhilAsia said:
Enjoyed that...Thank you
It sounds like there were far more practical jokes between Senna, Berger and Dennis than we even knew. I hope all the stories do emerge one day whilst two of the three protagonists are still around.
t it would be a mighty tome.Ron really had to gather it together at one point.
I was with one of my best friends (who sadly passed away in 2009) when the overhead showed the twitch. I do not know if that was Ayrton leaving us at that point, but we both looked at each other with a knowing disbelief... I do not think I will ever forget.
I am 62 this year too.
PhilAsia said:
Indeed! Berger does so much of that st it would be a mighty tome.
Ron really had to gather it together at one point.
I was with one of my best friends (who sadly passed away in 2009) when the overhead showed the twitch. I do not know if that was Ayrton leaving us at that point, but we both looked at each other with a knowing disbelief... I do not think I will ever forget.
I am 62 this year too.
I think Sid said that when he got to the scene he knew it was already too late seeing the head trauma but he felt a duty to his friend to try. He also had some amazing stories that I think never made his book, he used to practice neurosurgery at the Royal London in Whitechapel and he said long after he became a champion Senna used to visit as he enjoyed going for a curry with him in Brick Lane. He said in general Senna could walk around freely in that environment and not be bothered. Simpler pre-internet times. Sid also got very emotional when talking about his personal reminisces, in fact I think we didn't even discuss his racing exploits.t it would be a mighty tome.Ron really had to gather it together at one point.
I was with one of my best friends (who sadly passed away in 2009) when the overhead showed the twitch. I do not know if that was Ayrton leaving us at that point, but we both looked at each other with a knowing disbelief... I do not think I will ever forget.
I am 62 this year too.
cgt2 said:
PhilAsia said:
Indeed! Berger does so much of that st it would be a mighty tome.
Ron really had to gather it together at one point.
I was with one of my best friends (who sadly passed away in 2009) when the overhead showed the twitch. I do not know if that was Ayrton leaving us at that point, but we both looked at each other with a knowing disbelief... I do not think I will ever forget.
I am 62 this year too.
I think Sid said that when he got to the scene he knew it was already too late seeing the head trauma but he felt a duty to his friend to try. He also had some amazing stories that I think never made his book, he used to practice neurosurgery at the Royal London in Whitechapel and he said long after he became a champion Senna used to visit as he enjoyed going for a curry with him in Brick Lane. He said in general Senna could walk around freely in that environment and not be bothered. Simpler pre-internet times. Sid also got very emotional when talking about his personal reminisces, in fact I think we didn't even discuss his racing exploits.t it would be a mighty tome.Ron really had to gather it together at one point.
I was with one of my best friends (who sadly passed away in 2009) when the overhead showed the twitch. I do not know if that was Ayrton leaving us at that point, but we both looked at each other with a knowing disbelief... I do not think I will ever forget.
I am 62 this year too.
cgt2 said:
I think Sid said that when he got to the scene he knew it was already too late seeing the head trauma but he felt a duty to his friend to try. He also had some amazing stories that I think never made his book, he used to practice neurosurgery at the Royal London in Whitechapel and he said long after he became a champion Senna used to visit as he enjoyed going for a curry with him in Brick Lane. He said in general Senna could walk around freely in that environment and not be bothered. Simpler pre-internet times. Sid also got very emotional when talking about his personal reminisces, in fact I think we didn't even discuss his racing exploits.
A friend of mine once had an appointment with Dr Watkins at his surgery in London. After a wait of more than an hour, and some nervous looks among the staff, his receptionist finally admitted that the good doctor was running late because he was playing golf with Ayrton Senna! Top Gear tribute to Senna from a few years ago. Even Clarkson decided he quite likes the guy.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9U_K76vPGYo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9U_K76vPGYo
Sandpit Steve said:
A friend of mine once had an appointment with Dr Watkins at his surgery in London. After a wait of more than an hour, and some nervous looks among the staff, his receptionist finally admitted that the good doctor was running late because he was playing golf with Ayrton Senna!
Brilliant.There are a lot of things to grapple with around Ayrton.
He was a very complex individual, almost certainly suffered a complex of some kind perhaps mental health issues that did not affect him hugely but did affect the way he was around certain people and things, it would explain his singlemindedness and the way he treated certain people and reacted to some things.
It is what would have made him extremely successful in whatever he was planning after driving, maybe politics, maybe humanitarian.
I like to think he found a bit of peace in his time before that day, he had settled the dispute with Alain and clearly Alain had also found a friend he did not know he had, which I always thing says far more about their time together than anything that happened on track, I think he also confided a lot in Alain things we will never know about, things Alain has said he will never reveal too.
ON track for me he was an enigma, capable of breathtaking speed but also silly mistakes and ruthlessness he did not really need to have.
Off track he was massively engaging, loyal, generous and kind, it was just so odd the way he treated the people on track he felt were rivals.
He was a very complex individual, almost certainly suffered a complex of some kind perhaps mental health issues that did not affect him hugely but did affect the way he was around certain people and things, it would explain his singlemindedness and the way he treated certain people and reacted to some things.
It is what would have made him extremely successful in whatever he was planning after driving, maybe politics, maybe humanitarian.
I like to think he found a bit of peace in his time before that day, he had settled the dispute with Alain and clearly Alain had also found a friend he did not know he had, which I always thing says far more about their time together than anything that happened on track, I think he also confided a lot in Alain things we will never know about, things Alain has said he will never reveal too.
ON track for me he was an enigma, capable of breathtaking speed but also silly mistakes and ruthlessness he did not really need to have.
Off track he was massively engaging, loyal, generous and kind, it was just so odd the way he treated the people on track he felt were rivals.
LukeBrown66 said:
There are a lot of things to grapple with around Ayrton.
He was a very complex individual, almost certainly suffered a complex of some kind perhaps mental health issues that did not affect him hugely but did affect the way he was around certain people and things, it would explain his singlemindedness and the way he treated certain people and reacted to some things.
It is what would have made him extremely successful in whatever he was planning after driving, maybe politics, maybe humanitarian.
I like to think he found a bit of peace in his time before that day, he had settled the dispute with Alain and clearly Alain had also found a friend he did not know he had, which I always thing says far more about their time together than anything that happened on track, I think he also confided a lot in Alain things we will never know about, things Alain has said he will never reveal too.
ON track for me he was an enigma, capable of breathtaking speed but also silly mistakes and ruthlessness he did not really need to have.
Off track he was massively engaging, loyal, generous and kind, it was just so odd the way he treated the people on track he felt were rivals.
That's a really perfect summation. Undoubtedly Gerhard Berger also taught him there is more to life. I only met Berger once but it was clear he is an infectious personality and extremely funny. To be teammates with him for three seasons would undoubtedly have completely opened Senna's eyes to a perspective on life he had never known before. He was a very complex individual, almost certainly suffered a complex of some kind perhaps mental health issues that did not affect him hugely but did affect the way he was around certain people and things, it would explain his singlemindedness and the way he treated certain people and reacted to some things.
It is what would have made him extremely successful in whatever he was planning after driving, maybe politics, maybe humanitarian.
I like to think he found a bit of peace in his time before that day, he had settled the dispute with Alain and clearly Alain had also found a friend he did not know he had, which I always thing says far more about their time together than anything that happened on track, I think he also confided a lot in Alain things we will never know about, things Alain has said he will never reveal too.
ON track for me he was an enigma, capable of breathtaking speed but also silly mistakes and ruthlessness he did not really need to have.
Off track he was massively engaging, loyal, generous and kind, it was just so odd the way he treated the people on track he felt were rivals.
cgt2 said:
That's a really perfect summation. Undoubtedly Gerhard Berger also taught him there is more to life. I only met Berger once but it was clear he is an infectious personality and extremely funny. To be teammates with him for three seasons would undoubtedly have completely opened Senna's eyes to a perspective on life he had never known before.
Gerhard taught Ayrton that the Brazilian didn’t really need that briefcase anyway! https://www.ayrtonsenna.com.br/en/o-dia-em-que-ber...
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