Marina Ovsyannikova
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rjfp1962

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9,073 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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What a bold and brave young woman she is.. Going on Russian state tv for literally 3 seconds to protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine..
Potentially will receive 5 years in prison for each second she was in front of the camera.......!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60744605

Dr Murdoch

3,900 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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I think she'll be lucky to see prison unfortunately.

Byker28i

84,110 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Dr Murdoch said:
I think she'll be lucky to see prison unfortunately.
Are you suggesting there's lots of open windows, or that her health means the stress will give her a heart attack?

Hopefully jailed then released when Putin disposed, like all the other protestors?

Eric Mc

124,768 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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At the moment, her legal representatives can't find her - which sounds ominous to me.

I think we are entering a very dark period in Russian history where people will simply just "disappear".

durbster

11,784 posts

245 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Extraordinary bravery.

This is what standing up to tyranny really looks like.

Eric Mc

124,768 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Expect the mass graves to start being unearthed when Putin finally goes.

Flip Martian

22,730 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Incredibly brave thing to do. One can only hope she is seen as too high profile and popular to suddenly disappear. But Putin appears to defy all logic so who knows. I hope she's not the only one brave enough.

crankedup5

10,917 posts

58 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Flip Martian said:
Incredibly brave thing to do. One can only hope she is seen as too high profile and popular to suddenly disappear. But Putin appears to defy all logic so who knows. I hope she's not the only one brave enough.
Based upon Putins behaviour and morals evidenced over the past few years, he doesn’t give a damn about his public image. In all likelihood he thinks such issues make him ‘appear’ stronger and more resolute to his minions. The man is a complete maniac.

C1RVY

2,330 posts

286 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Hope she’s ok - I’m pleased that a few are standing up now.

I see another prominent news presenter has just resigned.

Hopefully it’s all starting to fall apart from the inside now.

alfaspecial

1,187 posts

163 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Eric Mc said:
At the moment, her legal representatives can't find her - which sounds ominous to me.

I think we are entering a very dark period in Russian history where people will simply just "disappear".
I think you are underestimating just how deeply the principles of free speech are ingrained into the Russian psyche .......


Quote President Vladimir Putin "In MY country people are presumed innocent - until they are found ......... DEAD from an overdose of Novichock"

https://www.rferl.org/a/everything-you-need-to-kno...


Edited by alfaspecial on Tuesday 15th March 14:35

Zetec-S

6,622 posts

116 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Expect the mass graves to start being unearthed when Putin finally goes.
Do we really think the situation has got that bad? (I genuinely have no idea)

The notion that political opponents were taken out the back and shot was not accurate, albeit more so after the death of Stalin. Remember that it was as far back as the late 50's/early 60's the Soviet Union underwent a period of "de-Stalinisation", amongst that was closing of the Gulags and rehabilitation of political prisoners into society.

I'm not by any means defending the system (either back then or now), but I would have thought it more likely those opposed to Putin find themselves at best ostracised from society, or at worst locked away in an overcrowded and under-maintained prison system.

bloomen

9,368 posts

182 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Dr Murdoch said:
I think she'll be lucky to see prison unfortunately.
Russia wants the illusion of a 'justice system' so it'll be the max sentence under the new law. She'll be a fine example for the common people to observe. I can't imagine anything she says from now on will ever be reported though.

Killer2005

20,448 posts

251 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Byker28i said:
Dr Murdoch said:
I think she'll be lucky to see prison unfortunately.
Are you suggesting there's lots of open windows, or that her health means the stress will give her a heart attack?

Hopefully jailed then released when Putin disposed, like all the other protestors?
She'll be invited around for one of Putins special cups of tea.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Zetec-S said:
Eric Mc said:
Expect the mass graves to start being unearthed when Putin finally goes.
Do we really think the situation has got that bad? (I genuinely have no idea)

The notion that political opponents were taken out the back and shot was not accurate, albeit more so after the death of Stalin. Remember that it was as far back as the late 50's/early 60's the Soviet Union underwent a period of "de-Stalinisation", amongst that was closing of the Gulags and rehabilitation of political prisoners into society.

I'm not by any means defending the system (either back then or now), but I would have thought it more likely those opposed to Putin find themselves at best ostracised from society, or at worst locked away in an overcrowded and under-maintained prison system.
Putin has killed people with Chemical weapons I don't think the worst is locked away by a long chalk

Zetec-S

6,622 posts

116 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Putin has killed people with Chemical weapons I don't think the worst is locked away by a long chalk
He has used chemical weapons to kill people he can't lock up.

Eric Mc

124,768 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Zetec-S said:
Do we really think the situation has got that bad? (I genuinely have no idea)

The notion that political opponents were taken out the back and shot was not accurate, albeit more so after the death of Stalin. Remember that it was as far back as the late 50's/early 60's the Soviet Union underwent a period of "de-Stalinisation", amongst that was closing of the Gulags and rehabilitation of political prisoners into society.

I'm not by any means defending the system (either back then or now), but I would have thought it more likely those opposed to Putin find themselves at best ostracised from society, or at worst locked away in an overcrowded and under-maintained prison system.
I'm not saying it's happening now - but it will.

rjfp1962

Original Poster:

9,073 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Marina Ovsyannikova is being charged with "organising an unauthorised public event," an administrative charge which could result in a fine of up to 30,000 roubles (£200), community service or up to 10 days in jail.

It suggests that the journalist is not being charged under Moscow's new law on "spreading false information about Russia's armed forces".

Earlier we reported that Ovsyannikova's lawyers were unable to locate her, but a photo circulating on social media appears to show her in court with a lawyer: (BBC News website)

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

221 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Zetec-S said:
Gecko1978 said:
Putin has killed people with Chemical weapons I don't think the worst is locked away by a long chalk
He has used chemical weapons to kill people he can't lock up.
And there was a spate of them falling off of balconies, that was certainly a favourite.

Jockman

18,343 posts

183 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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I’m sure the Times mentioned this morning that she has 2 kids.

Petrus1983

10,801 posts

185 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
Marina Ovsyannikova is being charged with "organising an unauthorised public event," an administrative charge which could result in a fine of up to 30,000 roubles (£200), community service or up to 10 days in jail.

It suggests that the journalist is not being charged under Moscow's new law on "spreading false information about Russia's armed forces".

Earlier we reported that Ovsyannikova's lawyers were unable to locate her, but a photo circulating on social media appears to show her in court with a lawyer: (BBC News website)
I hope this is true. She’s shown immense bravery and it’s probably a good time for her to have a holiday in a neighbouring country for a while.