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vetteheadracer

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8,273 posts

282 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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[quote=:This stupid tart from the Government]Police should not use racial profiling in their efforts to prevent further terror attacks on London, Home Office Minister Hazel Blears has said.
People should not be stopped and searched just because they are Muslim she said, before the first of a series of meetings with community leaders.
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Full article here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4736969.stm

Okay let's get this right all of the would be / successful suicide bombers are Muslims, but the police are not allowed to use this information when it comes to their Stop and Search policy....that's bollox :banghead: how do you tell someone's religous beliefs from their racial background anyway?

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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It's just politics.

She's just trying to avoid cries of racism etc but, in reality, certain people will be more prone to stop and search.

timmy30

9,325 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Wouldn't be so sure I remember seeing a little old biddy being searched at Heathrow, checking her shoes and everything for bombs, absolutely bloody ridiculous!

JagLover

46,763 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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More PC madness.

Stop and search is one of the few measures that stop crimes before they occur.

The police have been under fire because proportionally more people from ethnic minorities are stopped and searched. This is taken as proof that the police are racist.

However as a proportion of young men in crime hotspots, there is no evidence of racial bias.

Despite this, to appease the race relations lobby, the police have to fill in a form every time they stop someone, a complete waste of police time.

TDTH1975

631 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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This really gets on my t*ts

If I lived in a middle east country and under 40 white men were bombing, I would happily take on board the fact that i am profiled with these individuals and expect to be searched with no resistence. It is not racism - it is common sense, something that is rarely used these days. Unfortunately, politicians are exactly as their title refers to them and therefore it is a political game, not a "best approach" action that is being taken.

wiggy001

7,353 posts

300 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Go to Brixton and you will find that the majority of crimes are committed by black youths. This is not racist but a simple fact in the same way as most purple rinse is bought by elderly women and most Elizabeth Arden jewellery is bought by chavs.

The majority (read: all) of recent bombings in London have been carried out or masterminded by young men of Asian decent, so why the hell would the police waste time performing stop and searches on Mrs Miggins carrying her biscuits for Rover?

One reason and one reason only: The Guardian reading Thinkoftheminorities and those employed by the jobs in the aforementioned paper's back pages.

The world is not fair, life can be a b!tch. Deal with it and get a life! :angry:

IS200RJR

796 posts

271 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Anybody who has nothing to hide won't be crying the descrimation cr4p. How can you protect an island when we dont even know whos bloody here ?
Im 22 years old and I want to leave this country there are many more like me. Were over taxed to pay for all the scroungers and I for one am sick of it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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I remember reading an article in the paper that said in the USA, after 9/11, airport authorities would be prosecuted if they body searched more than the normal quota of men of an asian / arab appearance!

The world has gone pc mad.

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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wiggy001 said:
Go to Brixton and you will find that the majority of crimes are committed by black youths. This is not racist but a simple fact...


its actually quite sad. many of them used to end up at Wandsworth Remand for some of the dumbest offences you could ever think of committing. They would usually serve their sentence on remand and then be let out. Within 2-3 months alot of them were back again for a second stay.

a friend who was kept on remand for a year actually saw one young black guy go onto remand 3 times in a single year.

r988

7,495 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Political Correctness is not compatible with reality

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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At the rate the muslims reproduce we will be the minority in 40 years anyway. Most of the intelligent white people will have left and the economic success will be history, our legal system will be replaced with some religious dogmatic shite and we may have small pockets of independant athiest / agnostic freedom fighters in places like Wales, Scotland and the tax islands. Apart from that this place is destined to become Englandistan.

Tank Slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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wiggy001 said:


The majority (read: all) of recent bombings in London have been carried out or masterminded by young men of Asian decent,


Except those of african descent.



Tank Slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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nonegreen said:
At the rate the muslims reproduce we will be the minority in 40 years anyway. Most of the intelligent white people will have left and the economic success will be history, our legal system will be replaced with some religious dogmatic shite and we may have small pockets of independant athiest / agnostic freedom fighters in places like Wales, Scotland and the tax islands. Apart from that this place is destined to become Englandistan.


I suggest you have a look here and reconsider your point.

Unless of course your comment was based on prejudice?

Bitter'n'twisted

595 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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vetteheadracer said:
:This stupid tart from the Government said:
Police should not use racial profiling in their efforts to prevent further terror attacks on London, Home Office Minister Hazel Blears has said.
People should not be stopped and searched just because they are Muslim she said, before the first of a series of meetings with community leaders.


Full article here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4736969.stm

Okay let's get this right all of the would be / successful suicide bombers are Muslims, but the police are not allowed to use this information when it comes to their Stop and Search policy....that's bollox how do you tell someone's religous beliefs from their racial background anyway?


This is why this govt is dumbing stuff down. So that in future they will get away with p*ssing on your back and telling you it's raining.

Also they will play the race card at the drop of a hat, so that no one dare question their policies for fear of being branded.

At least at the moment there are still some people around with enough brain power to realise what an unbelievable crock this govt is.

cotty

42,230 posts

313 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Just had a thought there have been no female bombers so are they only including men in these profiles

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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The thing is that, whether you are black, white, brown, blue or green, these stop and searches are for the safety of all passengers - so what is the fuss?

If it helps safeguards all our lives, then get used to it?

The bombers, and would be bombers, took out / injured whites, blacks & browns so we are all targets here.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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cotty said:
Just had a thought there have been no female bombers so are they only including men in these profiles


Which is strange given they are fairly common in the middle east. Infact i heard that women terrorists are typically more dangerous than male ones.

IvIark

1,238 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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It shows how patently absurd politically correct statements and policies can be. If you're on the lookout for Muslim extremist suicide bombers, then you shouldn't have a policy of assuming that a Muslim is more likely to be the culprit?! WTF?! Maybe they should be stopping people who appear Jewish in case they are Muslim extremists.

No wonder the police are complaining about the difficulties in doing their job when we have this sort of bullst to contend with.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Why do politicians need to be so PC in the first place ? Is this symptomatic of too many whinging gits in the UK ?

>> Edited by scorp on Tuesday 2nd August 12:55

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2005
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Maybe I am missing the point here but wouldnt a blanket stop all non-whites miss the point entirely anyway?

The issue here is being a nutter and that fact isnt exactly tatooed on your forehead.

Unless you really are a nutter, I suppose.