Back seats in a 992 GT3 Touring

[BrntRubber]

Hi All,

I understand there have been 2 cars in the UK that have already purchased conversion kits from Elfer Motors.

Anyone know one of the owners? I am looking to do this ASAP.

Thanks

[CloudStuff]

BrntRubber said:

Hi All,

I understand there have been 2 cars in the UK that have already purchased conversion kits from Elfer Motors.

Anyone know one of the owners? I am looking to do this ASAP.

Thanks

It's a very cool thing to do! https://elfermotors.de/porsche-991-gt3-touring-nac...

I know where one of them - at least - has been converted.

PM me if you like. The specialist is converting 4 - at least - 991.2's to touring from winged, and one of those 4 is having the rear seats added.

Edited by CloudStuff on Sunday 6th March 13:05

Edited by CloudStuff on Sunday 6th March 13:06

Edited by CloudStuff on Sunday 6th March 13:07

[Mankers]

I only thought this was possible for 997.1 gt3 after that model not possible to do legally? Something to do with type approval and insurance issues?

Also thinner (or single skin) floor pan in rear from 997.2 onwards?

This is from memory so not 100% sure.

[BrntRubber]

My insurance are cool with it as long as done by a proper company.

[CloudStuff]

BrntRubber said:

My insurance are cool with it as long as done by a proper company.

(reply sent btw)

Edited by CloudStuff on Sunday 6th March 14:07

[erics]

I recently inquired to convert a 991.2 carrera T from 2 to 4 seats (like i did with a previously owned 996 gt3 mk2) and was told impossible. Missing seat hold pins etc. Plus obviously they are 2 seaters on V5.

Porsche Center said firm no, JZM said no and one other specialist who had 2 Carrera T for works, 1 with 2 seats and 1 with 4 seats also said no.

Looking at the German link, it looks possible but suspect very involved job and suspect very expensive too.

[Koln-RS]

People quote V5 and Insurance as restrictions, but these are not an obstacle, work just needs to be done correctly and those parties notified.

The bigger considerations are cost and practicality.
OPC will always say no - they won’t even repair a minor tyre puncture, or fit seat frame recliners - but I’m sure someone somewhere will have the expertise to do it, and to a standard that doesn’t devalue the vehicle.

[Charlie_1]

I will admit to being a bit confused , reading this post you have all bought a 2 seater vehicle but have now decided you need 4 seats , umm didnt you just buy the wrong car and now want to hack it about in the face of everyone except some bloke in a shed saying no

[guyvert1]

Probably because they want a 4 seater GT3, I know I would !

[BrntRubber]

Charlie_1 said:

I will admit to being a bit confused , reading this post you have all bought a 2 seater vehicle but have now decided you need 4 seats , umm didnt you just buy the wrong car and now want to hack it about in the face of everyone except some bloke in a shed saying no

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

[hornbaek]

BrntRubber said:

Charlie_1 said:

I will admit to being a bit confused , reading this post you have all bought a 2 seater vehicle but have now decided you need 4 seats , umm didnt you just buy the wrong car and now want to hack it about in the face of everyone except some bloke in a shed saying no

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

One of the setbacks with two extra seats in the back of the GT3 is that you cannot have the 918 fixed carbon backed seats (as they are fixed and don’t tilt forward). I think that would be a major drawback when buying a GT3 and I would seriously reconsider and go for a GTS instead. ( Apart from the fact that in most countries you can’t get insurance for a car where you have added extra seats ).

[Charlie_1]

BrntRubber said:

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

Settled ? , If Porsche thought that was a good idea wouldn't they just make one ? really dont understand why you would do this

[BrntRubber]

hornbaek said:

BrntRubber said:

Charlie_1 said:

I will admit to being a bit confused , reading this post you have all bought a 2 seater vehicle but have now decided you need 4 seats , umm didnt you just buy the wrong car and now want to hack it about in the face of everyone except some bloke in a shed saying no

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

One of the setbacks with two extra seats in the back of the GT3 is that you cannot have the 918 fixed carbon backed seats (as they are fixed and don’t tilt forward). I think that would be a major drawback when buying a GT3 and I would seriously reconsider and go for a GTS instead. ( Apart from the fact that in most countries you can’t get insurance for a car where you have added extra seats ).

I went with 18 ways on my touring. For me the LWBs are really hard on my lower back.

Insurance I have sorted already.

[BrntRubber]

Charlie_1 said:

BrntRubber said:

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

Settled ? , If Porsche thought that was a good idea wouldn't they just make one ? really dont understand why you would do this

I really enjoy driving a manual, especially when paired to a high revving NA Engine.

My usage of the car goes up 3X if I can fit my boys in the back. So if it's £10k to achieve that, it's worth it.

Porsche don't offer rear seats because they already sell as many gt3s as they can make. Why invest more in R&D and crash tests etc?

[rrroro]

BrntRubber said:

hornbaek said:

BrntRubber said:

Charlie_1 said:

I will admit to being a bit confused , reading this post you have all bought a 2 seater vehicle but have now decided you need 4 seats , umm didnt you just buy the wrong car and now want to hack it about in the face of everyone except some bloke in a shed saying no

Can you please recommend a new car with 6 speed transmission paired to a 9k rpm, NA, 500hp plus engine that has 4 seats?

Now that has been settled, it is not complicated to add back rear seats. Elfer sells the kit for 3k Euroes.

One of the setbacks with two extra seats in the back of the GT3 is that you cannot have the 918 fixed carbon backed seats (as they are fixed and don’t tilt forward). I think that would be a major drawback when buying a GT3 and I would seriously reconsider and go for a GTS instead. ( Apart from the fact that in most countries you can’t get insurance for a car where you have added extra seats ).

I went with 18 ways on my touring. For me the LWBs are really hard on my lower back.

Insurance I have sorted already.

Hi would you mind sharing who the insurer or underwriter is?

[Discombobulate]

Charlie_1 said:

ettled ? , If Porsche thought that was a good idea wouldn't they just make one ? really dont understand why you would do this

When you get one you will
It turns a great car into a more practical one - when needed.

Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 8th March 11:59

[Charlie_1]

Discombobulate said:

Charlie_1 said:

ettled ? , If Porsche thought that was a good idea wouldn't they just make one ? really dont understand why you would do this

When you get one you will
It turns a great car into a more practical one - when needed.

Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 8th March 11:59

Well if practical was on my list (which it isnt) Im pretty sure I wouldnt be looking at GT3 of any sort , sadly its academic anyway because I tried to buy a Cayman GT4RS and was very politely directed to the exit door so I dont meet the requirements

[TB993tt]

rrroro said:

Hi would you mind sharing who the insurer or underwriter is?

NFU added my 2GT3 rear seat conversion described as "Added bucket seats" and charged me £260,

I gave full details of TUV approved kit and included pictures so am pretty confident I'm well enough covered.

[rrroro]

TB993tt said:

rrroro said:

Hi would you mind sharing who the insurer or underwriter is?

NFU added my 2GT3 rear seat conversion described as "Added bucket seats" and charged me £260,

I gave full details of TUV approved kit and included pictures so am pretty confident I'm well enough covered.

Thank you. Reason I ask is that Classicline (ERS) have refused cover if I were to proceed with adding back seats & belts to my 997.1 GT3, no reasons given, just 'computer says no'. So I'm shopping around for a new insurer come renewal.

[Classifieds]

BrntRubber said:

Hi All,

I understand there have been 2 cars in the UK that have already purchased conversion kits from Elfer Motors.

Anyone know one of the owners? I am looking to do this ASAP.

Thanks

Did you end up going ahead with this or has anyone else had it done?

Can you retrofit rear ISOFIX in the 992 GT3?