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zzjjzz

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18 posts

82 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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Hi all.

How much should these repairs cost (rough estimate) on a Suzuki Swift sport 2012 at independent garage in Glasgow:

one rear brake caliper replacement
both rear brake pads
Offside Front Brake pipe corroded
Offside Brake pipe corroded (twin mains)
Nearside Rear Brake pipe corroded
Offside Rear Brake pipe corroded
--all the above four pipes need replaced.

Mot failed. Garage is quoting £1200
Thank you

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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sounds a bit rich to me

whats the caliper and pads cost ? no more than £200 ?

so £1000 to make some brake pipes

zzjjzz

Original Poster:

18 posts

82 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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steveo3002 said:
sounds a bit rich to me

whats the caliper and pads cost ? no more than £200 ?

so £1000 to make some brake pipes
How much should these repairs be roughly? I could get second opinion. Thanks

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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materials to make the pipes -£30 , so is it £970 worth of labour ?

id have thought half a days work should do it

is this at a main dealer , id suggest you find some back street indy place

MuscleSedan

1,607 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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Quick look on GSF show rear calipers £179.62 and rear pads £20.47.

6 hours labour @ £50 per hour ?

£600 all inclusive for the job would be a decent earner for someone.


Julian Thompson

2,620 posts

253 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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There is no way on this earth that you are making and retro fitting a complete set of brake lines in six hours.

The reality is that the garage will probably buy the genuine Suzuki parts and then struggle them into the car having had to strip lots of things off that are in the way.

It’s a £1k job all day long that, IMO.

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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Julian Thompson said:
There is no way on this earth that you are making and retro fitting a complete set of brake lines in six hours.
disagree...with it on a lift whats the problem? ive done the job on cars laying on my back

MuscleSedan

1,607 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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Brake pipes can be fiddly up around the ABS pump, across the bulkhead etc but nothing unusual. Use a good in situ flaring tool and it's very rarely a necessity to replace an entire pipe from end to end. It's hardly a full re plumb on a hydro Citroen. At £600 there's a clear £300+ profit for an easy day on the ramp.

stevieturbo

17,769 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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steveo3002 said:
disagree...with it on a lift whats the problem? ive done the job on cars laying on my back
Some cars have easy pipe routing....some are a total nightmare and can involve fuel tank or other parts etc to be removed to do the job right.

And legit garages have bigger overheads than someone lying in their driveway on their back.

stevieturbo

17,769 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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MuscleSedan said:
there's a clear £300+ profit for an easy day on the ramp.
profit or covering of expenses ? insurance ? rates ? wages ? premises ?

Almost any legit garages would need to be making that per day, just to cover costs and little more.

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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stevieturbo said:
MuscleSedan said:
there's a clear £300+ profit for an easy day on the ramp.
profit or covering of expenses ? insurance ? rates ? wages ? premises ?

Almost any legit garages would need to be making that per day, just to cover costs and little more.
so they should charge 10+ hours for a job that takes 6? surely their labour rate and parts mark up covers costs without scamming on the hours ?

if the car is in such a state it needs all the brake pipes doing id say a neat repair is good enough , if that means an alternate route around a fuel tank as long as its safe and secure ...not like its a resto on a gullwing merc

sounds like they dont want your job ,id be pretty confident you can have it done for less than that

Edited by steveo3002 on Saturday 5th March 16:59

stevieturbo

17,769 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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steveo3002 said:
so they should charge 10+ hours for a job that takes 6? surely their labour rate and parts mark up covers costs without scamming on the hours ?

if the car is in such a state it needs all the brake pipes doing id say a neat repair is good enough , if that means an alternate route around a fuel tank as long as its safe and secure ...not like its a resto on a gullwing merc

sounds like they dont want your job ,id be pretty confident you can have it done for less than that

Edited by steveo3002 on Saturday 5th March 16:59
You could do it cheaper for him then ?

And unless it's going for a dodgy MOT...#brakeclipsmatter LOL

And how do you know it takes 6 on that specific vehicle, with the specific problems it has ? How many have you done ?

It's very easy to shout "that's too much", "that takes too long, it can be done in half the time".....how many will step up and prove it ?

Often the job that is rushed, is usually butchered and usually unseen by the owners.

but of course, a second opinion from another competent garage can do no harm.

Smint

2,366 posts

50 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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I would definately be getting a second opinion.
The difference bwteen OE and pattern parts will be huge, is the garage in question going OE? arguably i'd avoid OE if the brake pipes need replacing this soon.

stevieturbo

17,769 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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OEM tend to always use steel ( apart from old Volvos )...which always corrodes. Never really figured out why when there are better longer lasting alternatives.

Most garages will use copper...it's ok, it's cheap, easy bent etc. But never really that nice.

Kunifer would be preferred, not so many do use it though for some reason

Smint

2,366 posts

50 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Been many years since i needed to change a brake pipe, because keep them greased.
Always used Kunifer in the past and when we had a flaring set and fittings and would make our own up, but its been so long since heard it mentioned i assumed it might have been replaced by something else.

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Smint said:
Been many years since i needed to change a brake pipe, because keep them greased.
Always used Kunifer in the past and when we had a flaring set and fittings and would make our own up, but its been so long since heard it mentioned i assumed it might have been replaced by something else.
no people still use kunifer for replacements lines

Smint

2,366 posts

50 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Much obliged.

Smint

2,366 posts

50 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Much obliged.

steveo3002

10,873 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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just think £1 of grease would have most likely keep those nice if done early in its life

zzjjzz

Original Poster:

18 posts

82 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Thanks all. I will be getting quotes from other garages.