Mazepin reportedly out - Fittipaldi in
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Not yet confirmed by the team. But, according to this:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
Jonny_ said:
Not yet confirmed by the team. But, according to this:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
He was fhttps://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
king horrible, he was slow as st, now he's gone. Good fking riddance. A driver without redeeming features.It's been doing the rounds for a couple of days now, but as yet nobody has had anything directly confirmed.
Sky F1 Germany were reporting it yesterday apparently, but with the "unconfirmed" caveat.
Sounds like it's a done deal, so perhaps Mazepin snr paying to find a way to let / make Haas explain ti as not their fault? (cynical much?)
Sky F1 Germany were reporting it yesterday apparently, but with the "unconfirmed" caveat.
Sounds like it's a done deal, so perhaps Mazepin snr paying to find a way to let / make Haas explain ti as not their fault? (cynical much?)
NoBrakesWC said:
Also since MotorsportUK have banned All Russian license holders he wouldn't be able to do British GP and that would be a contributing factor
I read that the F1 licence has a clause which would have allowed him to compete in F1 events.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60618703
(final paragraph)
Fittipaldi is the easiest/cheapest option given that he is already contracted with the team but, as a racing driver, he is just as bad as Mazepin.
One would expect they'd try to get someone like Giovinazzi into the seat first. He has recent experience and apparently quite adept at setting up the car. Comes from within the Ferrari umbrella too.
No matter who gets in it'll be better for the sport to not have Mazepin around.
One would expect they'd try to get someone like Giovinazzi into the seat first. He has recent experience and apparently quite adept at setting up the car. Comes from within the Ferrari umbrella too.
No matter who gets in it'll be better for the sport to not have Mazepin around.
I'm not sure Mazepin's actually as bad as people seem to think. Sure I'm not suggesting he'd be world champion if only he'd been in either a Red Bull or Merc. last season but in his defence:
1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
//j17 said:
I'm not sure Mazepin's actually as bad as people seem to think. Sure I'm not suggesting he'd be world champion if only he'd been in either a Red Bull or Merc. last season but in his defence:
1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but it was much harder to get drunk playing the "Drink if Mazepan is spinning" drinking game in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
His seat was bought with dirty money - that trump's whatever else weight weigh up in the current climate. It's nice for him that his dad had the money to give him that opportunity but by the same token he has to understand that makes his position in the sport about that money - and the baggage it now brings with it.1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but it was much harder to get drunk playing the "Drink if Mazepan is spinning" drinking game in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
And the fact is, russian or not, if it's not about the money he simply doesn't rate highly enough for an F1 seat. Take the money away and he's not even close.
Jonny_ said:
Not yet confirmed by the team. But, according to this:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
Not only money, which countries are going to give him a visa for races? Maybe China? https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-depar...
... Mazepin will be replaced by Pietro Fittipaldi.
Seems reasonable; after all, without his dad's money, why would they keep Nikita in that seat?
//j17 said:
I'm not sure Mazepin's actually as bad as people seem to think. Sure I'm not suggesting he'd be world champion if only he'd been in either a Red Bull or Merc. last season but in his defence:
1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
I think you’re being overly kind on Nikita here. 1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
Firstly he came in under a cloud mostly because of the sexual assault incident which was entirely of his own making.
I think you’re mis-remembering the pace gap- it wasn’t often as low as two tenths, and unlike Stroll, Latifi etc he was up against a fellow rookie as a team-mate. Look at Latifi’s team mate, and Stroll’s (since Sirotkin).
He created friction within the team, with many testy radio interactions to evidence. He and Mick appeared to not even be on speaking terms at times.
He was unquestionably the worst driver on the 2021 grid, I don’t feel that is up for discussion. Latifi may have been comparable in his rookie year but he appeared to be liked by all and while he didn’t set the world alight he wasn’t noticeably having a lot of incidents.
HustleRussell said:
//j17 said:
I'm not sure Mazepin's actually as bad as people seem to think. Sure I'm not suggesting he'd be world champion if only he'd been in either a Red Bull or Merc. last season but in his defence:
1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
I think you’re being overly kind on Nikita here. 1. The 2020 Hass wasn't a great car in 2020 and normally at the back of the grid so it wasn't going to do any better when it was rolled back out for the 2021 season, with just the minimal required updates.
2. While consistently slower than his team mate Mick S. in the same car it was usually only by a couple of tenths, the same couple of tenths you'd tend to see between Hamilton and Bottas, Ricciardo and Norris, etc.
3. The Mazespin nickname was deserved in 2020 but the "Has Mazepin spun yet?" website saw many fewer updated in 2021.
I'm not sure he's even the biggest waste of a seat on the grid, if you weight the quality of the seat they are keeping warm. I mean is Lance Stroll really good-enough for the Aston Martin, or Latifi for the Williams, or Giovinazzi for the Alfa last year?
Firstly he came in under a cloud mostly because of the sexual assault incident which was entirely of his own making.
I think you’re mis-remembering the pace gap- it wasn’t often as low as two tenths, and unlike Stroll, Latifi etc he was up against a fellow rookie as a team-mate. Look at Latifi’s team mate, and Stroll’s (since Sirotkin).
He created friction within the team, with many testy radio interactions to evidence. He and Mick appeared to not even be on speaking terms at times.
He was unquestionably the worst driver on the 2021 grid, I don’t feel that is up for discussion. Latifi may have been comparable in his rookie year but he appeared to be liked by all and while he didn’t set the world alight he wasn’t noticeably having a lot of incidents.
Nikita only ever raced against another rookie and he got absolutely destroyed. The only times he was even vaguely fast enough to bother his team mate he crashed trying.
The rest of the time he was slow and pissed off the rest of the grid endlessly. Even the mentalist Maldonado left with more friends.
All the above would remain true if he wasn't Russian or there on Putin's penny.
The rest of the time he was slow and pissed off the rest of the grid endlessly. Even the mentalist Maldonado left with more friends.
All the above would remain true if he wasn't Russian or there on Putin's penny.
TheDeuce said:
Nikita only ever raced against another rookie and he got absolutely destroyed. The only times he was even vaguely fast enough to bother his team mate he crashed trying.
The rest of the time he was slow and pissed off the rest of the grid endlessly. Even the mentalist Maldonado left with more friends.
All the above would remain true if he wasn't Russian or there on Putin's penny.
Not forgetting Maldonado actually won a grand prix, on merit too.The rest of the time he was slow and pissed off the rest of the grid endlessly. Even the mentalist Maldonado left with more friends.
All the above would remain true if he wasn't Russian or there on Putin's penny.
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