Volodymyr Zelensky - President of Ukraine.
Volodymyr Zelensky - President of Ukraine.
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rjfp1962

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9,073 posts

96 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Zelensky's rise to Ukraine President is quite something... From actor/comedian, playing President in the TV series "Servant of the People" and before this voicing Paddington Bear into Ukrainian for the films Paddington & Paddington 2.
Zelensky formed The Servant to the People party in December 2017 and assumed the role of Ukraine President in May 2019 after winning 124 seats in the parliamentary election.
On February 24th 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine (after annexing The Crimean Peninsula in 2014) and in so doing comes the biggest challenge of Zelensky's short presidency.
Can he be the leader who challenges and ends President Putin of Russia's leadership - or will Putin ratchet up his war effort?
Putin has apparently ordered 400 mercenaries out to assasinate Zelensky, so Putin clearly see's him as a serious threat.....
I hope Mr Zelensky can win for Ukraine and it's people.. Serving the Nation..


Edited by rjfp1962 on Monday 28th February 12:30

Jake899

573 posts

67 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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"I need ammunition, not a ride" is a wonderful line guaranteed to instil fighting spirit and resilience to the Ukrainian nation.

Jonmx

2,870 posts

236 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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A look on the Russian language sites shows a hideous amount of Antisemitism towards him. Completely undoes the 'Nazi Ukraine' claim coming from Putin. Hope he outlives this conflict.

Muddle238

4,362 posts

136 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Big respect to Zelensky, he's a leader with integrity. Putin could only wish he was a fraction of the man Zelensky is.

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

62 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Well one ting that has come about from this, is Europe is looking to protect it's own, and hopefully drive Putin and Russia into the dirt.


HappyMidget

6,794 posts

138 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Whippy

32,175 posts

264 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Putin and the West have been vying for proxy control of Ukraine for at least a decade.

The fact none of them resolved to find a peaceful end to a decade of escalation is sad.


Good luck to the Ukrainians and Russians by all means.
But to offer these politicians any kind of support is just hypocrisy.

They should be explaining why they couldn’t find a solution to peace.

I can only assume Putin knows this isn’t a war without cost, and Ukrainian leadership too, so why didn’t they find a peaceful solution?
Are lives on both sides worth so little?

Edited by Mr Whippy on Monday 28th February 12:37

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

62 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
the West have been vying for proxy control of Ukraine for at least a decade.
No they haven't .

Puggit

49,441 posts

271 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
They should be explaining why they couldn’t find a solution to peace.
Simple answer - a minority of Russians, and the Russian state.

Solocle

3,985 posts

107 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
Mr Zelensky's rise to Ukraine President is quite something... From actor/comedian, playing President in the TV series "Servant of the People" and before this voicing Paddington Bear into Ukrainian for the films Paddington & Paddington 2.
Zelensky formed The Servant to the People party in December 2017 and assumed the role of Ukraine President in May 2019 after winning 124 seats in the parliamentary election.
On February 24th 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine (after annexing The Crimean Peninsula in 2014) and in so doing comes the biggest challenge of Zelensky's short presidency.
Can he be the leader who challenges and ends President Putin of Russia's leadership - or will Putin ratchet up his war effort?
Putin has apparently ordered 400 mercenaries out to assasinate Zelensky, so Putin clearly see's him as a serious threat.....
I hope Mr Zelensky can win for Ukraine and it's people.. Serving the Nation..


Edited by rjfp1962 on Monday 28th February 12:30
Geopolitics using bears.

How the russians saw Zelensky:

How Zelensky has turned out:

How the West saw Russia:

How Russia has turned out:

TRIUMPHBULLET

711 posts

136 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
Mr Zelensky's rise to Ukraine President is quite something... From actor/comedian, playing President in the TV series "Servant of the People" and before this voicing Paddington Bear into Ukrainian for the films Paddington & Paddington 2.
Zelensky formed The Servant to the People party in December 2017 and assumed the role of Ukraine President in May 2019 after winning 124 seats in the parliamentary election.
On February 24th 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine (after annexing The Crimean Peninsula in 2014) and in so doing comes the biggest challenge of Zelensky's short presidency.
Can he be the leader who challenges and ends President Putin of Russia's leadership - or will Putin ratchet up his war effort?
Putin has apparently ordered 400 mercenaries out to assasinate Zelensky, so Putin clearly see's him as a serious threat.....
I hope Mr Zelensky can win for Ukraine and it's people.. Serving the Nation..


Edited by rjfp1962 on Monday 28th February 12:30
He knows that if he is assassinated he will become a symbol of a free Ukraine. I doubt tough guy Putin has the same internal courage as he is essentially a low life criminal at heart.

Mr Whippy

32,175 posts

264 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Ouroboros said:
Mr Whippy said:
the West have been vying for proxy control of Ukraine for at least a decade.
No they haven't .
Of course… no Western interests in Ukraine at all.

When will people realise our lot war-monger just as much as Putin does, under just the same self-interested reasons.

We’ve caused decades of misery in Afghanistan as a recent example. Just upped and left and it’s gone right back to where it was.
Thousands of dead innocent civilians and an anti-western sentiment is the lasting memory there.

But it’s all ok, because we’re the “goodies”, and Putin is a “baddy”

Grow up.

It’s nuanced beyond any of our understanding.

But that doesn’t make war and fighting acceptable… and that includes slowly walking your population into it and then suggesting this was out of the blue, and just the actions of an irrational mad man.

Yep. USA brainy heroic goody.
Baddies just big brain dead bullies.

rolleyes

voyds9

8,490 posts

306 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Zelensky is what you would expect of your leader, unfortunately most fall far short.

Tannedbaldhead

3,122 posts

155 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
Putin has apparently ordered 400 mercenaries out to assasinate Zelensky, so Putin clearly see's him as a serious threat.....

Edited by rjfp1962 on Monday 28th February 12:30
Yup, that'll calm the Ukranians down.
A proper whack the hornets' nest with a stick manoeuver.

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

62 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
Of course… no Western interests in Ukraine at all.
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You said ''proxy control'', then have some sort of weird rant, but don't provide any evidence to back up your statement. It comes across a but unhinged TBH.

Muddle238

4,362 posts

136 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
Putin and the West have been vying for proxy control of Ukraine for at least a decade.

The fact none of them resolved to find a peaceful end to a decade of escalation is sad.


Good luck to the Ukrainians and Russians by all means.
But to offer these politicians any kind of support is just hypocrisy.

They should be explaining why they couldn’t find a solution to peace.

I can only assume Putin knows this isn’t a war without cost, and Ukrainian leadership too, so why didn’t they find a peaceful solution?
Are lives on both sides worth so little?

Edited by Mr Whippy on Monday 28th February 12:37
At the end of the day, the only country instigating violence is Russia; they're the ones who sent tanks, troops and missiles into Ukraine. The Ukrainians are only getting violent to fight back the Russian invasion; what else are they supposed to do, allow Putin to waltz right into Kyiv? They're simply defending their country.

Putin's narrative changes almost every day. Ultimately though, he's the only one invading a sovereign nation here. Ukraine seemed quite happy before a convoy of knackered old Ural's clinking with vodka bottles barreled through their border.


Timothy Bucktu

16,631 posts

223 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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I know nothing about him really, other than he's certainly shown what a real Man is.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

179 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Got a massive crush on him.

Puggit

49,441 posts

271 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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croyde

25,518 posts

253 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Solocle said:
Geopolitics using bears.

How the russians saw Zelensky:

How Zelensky has turned out:

How the West saw Russia:

How Russia has turned out:
I do like that. Especially poor ol bear amongst the rubbish and overturned bins hehe