Tyres for W204 C220 CDI
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I suspect your wheels will be different widths front and rear which would make fitting the 245 front and rear not ideal. Are the rim widths marked on the wheels anywhere?
I use a specialist alignment place for my cars as I find alignment done by tyre fitters can be a bit hit and miss. Last year I fitted GY Eagle F1 Assy5 to my E class and found Blackcircles to be one of the cheapest and with a local fitter (those tyres are great, recommended)
All tyre fitters will include balancing (is my experience)
I use a specialist alignment place for my cars as I find alignment done by tyre fitters can be a bit hit and miss. Last year I fitted GY Eagle F1 Assy5 to my E class and found Blackcircles to be one of the cheapest and with a local fitter (those tyres are great, recommended)
All tyre fitters will include balancing (is my experience)
Edited by Scrump on Tuesday 8th February 17:54
Scrump said:
I suspect your wheels will be different widths front and rear which would make fitting the 245 front and rear not ideal. Are the rim widths marked on the wheels anywhere?
I thought all wheels are same in size. Or is it that for staggered setup wheels are different. Rear remains in rear only? Sorry if question is stupid.Your wheels are all 17 inch diameter but as you have different width tyres it is likely that you have different width wheels. This is known as staggered and means rear wheels stay on the rear and front stay on the front.
Your front wheels may be something like 7 inches wide whilst your rears may be something like 8.5 inches wide (not correct numbers, just examples).
You could fit the same size front and rear but that would mean new wheels as well as new tyres.
Your front wheels may be something like 7 inches wide whilst your rears may be something like 8.5 inches wide (not correct numbers, just examples).
You could fit the same size front and rear but that would mean new wheels as well as new tyres.
legendracer said:
I thought all wheels are same in size. Or is it that for staggered setup wheels are different. Rear remains in rear only? Sorry if question is stupid.
I think they'll be 7.5" wide at the front with 225/45 R17 tyres and 8.5" wide at the rear with 245/40 R17. The 225/45 R17 is a popular size and therefore there's lots of choice and they are cheap. The 245/40 R17 isn't a popular size and I'm not aware that you can get the Primacy 4 in that size.Why are you looking to put wider tyres on the front of your car - won't this be more likely to cause aquaplaning on the often-wet roads you drive on?
Scrump said:
Your wheels are all 17 inch diameter but as you have different width tyres it is likely that you have different width wheels. This is known as staggered and means rear wheels stay on the rear and front stay on the front.
Your front wheels may be something like 7 inches wide whilst your rears may be something like 8.5 inches wide (not correct numbers, just examples).
You could fit the same size front and rear but that would mean new wheels as well as new tyres.
Thank you for explanation. So I will stick with staggered setup. Your front wheels may be something like 7 inches wide whilst your rears may be something like 8.5 inches wide (not correct numbers, just examples).
You could fit the same size front and rear but that would mean new wheels as well as new tyres.
Could you give your opinion between Michelin primacy 4, pilot sport 4, cross climate 2. Trying to find a good set for daily motorway runs.
legendracer said:
Could you give your opinion between Michelin primacy 4, pilot sport 4, cross climate 2. Trying to find a good set for daily motorway runs.
Primacy 4 will be ideal for motorway runsPilot sport 4 will also be good for motorway but are more sporty so car should handle better on A and B roads, but tyre life may be shorter.
Cross climate will be okay on motorway with improved grip in cold and wet conditions (at the expense of slightly reduced performance in warmer drier conditions and maybe slightly higher noise) I think cross climate 2 have been replaced by a later version now,
legendracer said:
Staggered it is. 245 and 225. Also I have difficulty in selecting the sidewall ratio.
Sidewall ratio should be written in the tyre sticker, stick with standard sidewall profiles.I think you may have 225/45 and 245/40 tyres, the different profile number is due to the different widths. The profile number is a percentage of width so both the tyres sizes have the same sidewall height.
Scrump said:
Primacy 4 will be ideal for motorway runs
Pilot sport 4 will also be good for motorway but are more sporty so car should handle better on A and B roads, but tyre life may be shorter.
Cross climate will be okay on motorway with improved grip in cold and wet conditions (at the expense of slightly reduced performance in warmer drier conditions and maybe slightly higher noise) I think cross climate 2 have been replaced by a later version now,
Primacy has, 4, 4+ ST, S, variants. Which to choose. Pilot sport 4 will also be good for motorway but are more sporty so car should handle better on A and B roads, but tyre life may be shorter.
Cross climate will be okay on motorway with improved grip in cold and wet conditions (at the expense of slightly reduced performance in warmer drier conditions and maybe slightly higher noise) I think cross climate 2 have been replaced by a later version now,
How much less life might pilot sport 4 give? For guessing 5000 miles?
legendracer said:
Thank you for explanation. So I will stick with staggered setup.
Could you give your opinion between Michelin primacy 4, pilot sport 4, cross climate 2. Trying to find a good set for daily motorway runs.
The only tyre you've listed that you can get in 245/40 R17 is the Pilot Sport 4. They also do a Mercedes-approved Primacy HP, but that seems to be quite an old tyre, but may suit if you are looking for a long-lasting tyre and don't need a sporty tyre. The Continental Premium Contact 6 and Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 are probably also worth considering. Reviews here: https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Could you give your opinion between Michelin primacy 4, pilot sport 4, cross climate 2. Trying to find a good set for daily motorway runs.
trevalvole said:
The only tyre you've listed that you can get in 245/40 R17 is the Pilot Sport 4. They also do a Mercedes-approved Primacy HP, but that seems to be quite an old tyre, but may suit if you are looking for a long-lasting tyre and don't need a sporty tyre. The Continental Premium Contact 6 and Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 are probably also worth considering. Reviews here: https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/
Helped me some Google searches. Thank you. Would like to stick to 1 setup on all 4. Primacy it is. But which one... That's the confusion. 4, 4st, s, 4+. Going by price 4st seems costlier. Does it mean better?legendracer said:
Helped me some Google searches. Thank you. Would like to stick to 1 setup on all 4. Primacy it is. But which one... That's the confusion. 4, 4st, s, 4+. Going by price 4st seems costlier. Does it mean better?
I think you misunderstood the earlier post. It looks like the only two Michelin tyres you can get in the rear size your car is primacy HP and pilot sport 4 (according to black circles).No point looking at other tyres if they are not available in the right sizes for your car.
legendracer said:
Helped me some Google searches. Thank you. Would like to stick to 1 setup on all 4. Primacy it is. But which one... That's the confusion. 4, 4st, s, 4+. Going by price 4st seems costlier. Does it mean better?
Can you get any of the versions of the Primacy you list in size 245/40 R17?trevalvole said:
The only tyre you've listed that you can get in 245/40 R17 is the Pilot Sport 4. They also do a Mercedes-approved Primacy HP, but that seems to be quite an old tyre, but may suit if you are looking for a long-lasting tyre and don't need a sporty tyre. The Continental Premium Contact 6 and Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 are probably also worth considering. Reviews here: https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/
Primacy HP is D for fuel and B for rain. Primacy 4 is C for fuel and A for rain. But as you said sidewall is at 45. What would happen if rear sidewall ratio is different to front. Insurance problem?
You need 225/45 front and 245/40 rear tyres. You want the same type of tyres on the front and the rear.
Those two tyre sizes are not available in all types of tyre. Lots of choice for the front size, but a more limited choice for the rear size.
If you want Michelin tyres then I think you can only get Primacy HP or Pilot Sport 4.
You should also consider Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy5 or Continental Premium Contact 6 or sport contact 5 tyres which are all available for the front and rear of your car.
Those two tyre sizes are not available in all types of tyre. Lots of choice for the front size, but a more limited choice for the rear size.
If you want Michelin tyres then I think you can only get Primacy HP or Pilot Sport 4.
You should also consider Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy5 or Continental Premium Contact 6 or sport contact 5 tyres which are all available for the front and rear of your car.
legendracer said:
Primacy HP is D for fuel and B for rain. Primacy 4 is C for fuel and A for rain. But as you said sidewall is at 45.
What would happen if rear sidewall ratio is different to front. Insurance problem?
Sidewall ratio is 45 at the front, 40 at the rear. No insurance problem if you fit the spec of tyres that the manufacturer recommends. If you want to check the tyre sizes, then they should be listed on the inside of the fuel flap.What would happen if rear sidewall ratio is different to front. Insurance problem?
If you are getting Michelins in the size that Mercedes recommend, then I think your choice is either Pilot Sport 4 or Primacy HP. The poorer rating of the Primacy HP is probably because tyres have improved since it was introduced more than 10 years ago.
If you want to fit tyres that are different in size to those recommended by Mercedes, then first check with your insurer.
That's all I have to say on this.
Scrump said:
You need 225/45 front and 245/40 rear tyres. You want the same type of tyres on the front and the rear.
Those two tyre sizes are not available in all types of tyre. Lots of choice for the front size, but a more limited choice for the rear size.
If you want Michelin tyres then I think you can only get Primacy HP or Pilot Sport 4.
You should also consider Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy5 or Continental Premium Contact 6 or sport contact 5 tyres which are all available for the front and rear of your car.
I hope to get at least 20000 miles from New tyres. Those two tyre sizes are not available in all types of tyre. Lots of choice for the front size, but a more limited choice for the rear size.
If you want Michelin tyres then I think you can only get Primacy HP or Pilot Sport 4.
You should also consider Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy5 or Continental Premium Contact 6 or sport contact 5 tyres which are all available for the front and rear of your car.
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