Honda now not leaving F1
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2fast748 said:
Wonder what changed their mind.....
Or rather, wonder how Red Bull might have realised how tricky it is to do it on your own?In effect, I think the project was actually just the same team as previous just working under Red Bull funding directly (same job, different uniform). Maybe Red Bull / Honda have changed their contracts and its a good idea to keep the Honda branding for both parties?
OK, seems that they are still leaving as a works provider, but Red Bull are now paying them to make complete units in Japan and ship over.
Unknown if they'll still be badged as Hondas.
Red Bull also want to be a 'new' manufacturer to take advantage of rules allowing more budget to new engine entrants in 2026.
This also implies that there won't be a tie-up with them and VW/Porsche.
Unknown if they'll still be badged as Hondas.
Red Bull also want to be a 'new' manufacturer to take advantage of rules allowing more budget to new engine entrants in 2026.
This also implies that there won't be a tie-up with them and VW/Porsche.
They got the engines frozen then pull this switcheroo.
I guess all the poached merc staff will be working on the next rebull engine and can do back to back comparisons.
But maybe honda didn't expect to win in their last season so now want to get some exposure in F1.
Otherwise its all similar to last time they pulled out.
I guess all the poached merc staff will be working on the next rebull engine and can do back to back comparisons.
But maybe honda didn't expect to win in their last season so now want to get some exposure in F1.
Otherwise its all similar to last time they pulled out.
rampageturke said:
2fast748 said:
Being reported that Honda are to continue to supply Red Bull until the end of the current regs.
Wonder what changed their mind.....
Wasn't that how it was always going to be? Honda would be working under the RB name.Wonder what changed their mind.....
There's a Honda engine facility in Milton Keynes - TUPE all those staff over, plus the ones they head-hunted from Mercedes.
Someone in Honda's marketing department has clearly woken up, at last. They have a history of leaving at the wrong time. They left it to Brawn to collect all the glory that they should have had, the last time that they left at the wrong time. They were about to repeat it again, just when their "GP2 engine (eh Fernando) suddenly is a WDC winner.
Someone at Honda has realised the marketing power of being able to say that they are supplying the engine and manufacturing it in a Honda plant to the current WDC, who might win again this year, rather than it being a RBR engine, which is really a Honda one, but they won't be able to claim the credit for.
Someone at Honda has realised the marketing power of being able to say that they are supplying the engine and manufacturing it in a Honda plant to the current WDC, who might win again this year, rather than it being a RBR engine, which is really a Honda one, but they won't be able to claim the credit for.
housen said:
LucyP said:
The fresh softs were available to Hamilton too. Merc just failed to cover off the RBR stop.
Lucy that is such a obvious troll move just randomly posting that out of the blue in relation to nothing that's currently being discussed
god bless you
PH User said:
housen said:
LucyP said:
The fresh softs were available to Hamilton too. Merc just failed to cover off the RBR stop.
Lucy that is such a obvious troll move just randomly posting that out of the blue in relation to nothing that's currently being discussed
god bless you
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