RE: Porsche 911 (996) GT2 Clubsport | PH Heroes

RE: Porsche 911 (996) GT2 Clubsport | PH Heroes

Sunday 23rd January 2022

Porsche 911 (996) GT2 Clubsport | PH Heroes

We revisit the 996 GT2 to see if its fearsome reputation is justified two decades on from launch...



I have a great fondness for the Porsche 996. Not because it's currently the cheapest route into 911 ownership, but because it was the first modern-feeling 911. People can crow all they want about its fried-egg headlights and liquid cooling, yet I'd have a 996 in my stable in a heartbeat. The driving position is fundamentally sound, the cabin ergonomics are fathomable, and 996s drive with way more civility than any of their air-cooled predecessors. All except this one, if reputations are to be believed. Everyone knows the Porsche 996 GT2 isn't civil. It's the devil child, or to use the more common colloquialism: the widowmaker. That's not rubbish, either. I remember a colleague of mine, who was affiliated with Porsche at the time the 996 GT2 was launched, telling me about a customer who picked up his new one and didn't make it home. Ever.

It would've cost you £114,900 back in 2001 - around £30,000 more than a 996 Turbo. Of course, most people couldn't simply pay that and expect a GT2 to appear. This is a Porsche with 'GT' in its name, remember; there's more chance of beating Indiana Jones to the Holy Grail than getting the keys to one of those new. You have to be in the special club. If you're not, then you need to pay a hefty premium, which people were happy to do for a GT2 because it was the fastest and most powerful road-going Porsche you could buy.

Its 3.6-litre flat-six had two turbos, two intercoolers and VarioCam Plus valve timing. Going by the original press release it developed 463hp (128.6hp per litre) with 457lb ft of torque - for a bit of context, that's more than one-and-a-half times the twist of a 996 GT3 RS. Okay, the 996 GT2 was a little bit heavier than its Rennsport sibling, but we're only talking 80kg. In total it was 1,440kg (DIN), or about the same as today's 992 GT3. It was mind-boggling quick in its day, with a top speed of 196mph, 0-62mph in 4.1 seconds and 0-124mph in 12.5 seconds.



These days, BMW and Mercedes won't sell you an M5 or a E63 without four-wheel drive because they're considered too powerful to have just two driven wheels - in the hands of mere mortals, at any rate. Porsche made the same noises about the 996 Turbo. It needed four-wheel drive to be useable on the road, it said. Meanwhile, in the next room they were busy adding another 42hp, decoupling the front axle and sticking that torquey tsunami through just the 12Jx18 rear wheels, smeared with low-profile 315/30 Pirelli P Zero rubber. And then they removed the driver aids, other than the ABS. No traction control and no stability control. Those things were for namby-pambies who drove soft and cuddly cars like the Ferrari 360.

Someone at Weissach was clearly worried about the company manufacturing a litigation machine, though, because they insisted on building in understeer. Quite a bit of it if you read the road tests. This was meant to tame the rear but didn't really work. Most people who drove a 996 GT2 said that, not only would it oversteer, it oversteered with a Venus fly trap snap. It was vicious, especially in the wet. Not long after that, the reports of 996-sized holes appearing in hedges began and its reputation was born.

So right now, looking at this immaculate, black 996 GT2 in front of me, I feel like I'm about to meet the wheeled version of Regan from the Exorcist. Except it'll be me vomiting. On top of its reputation for dressing wives in black, I'm worrying about its price. This isn't one of the cheap 996s. The chaps at Bell Sport & Classic - a proper bunch of petrolheads who've gone to the trouble of sinking a Ferrari F430 V8 under the glass floor of their showroom toilet - have kindly lent us this one for the day, and it's extremely rare. One of just 16 right-hand drive Clubsports, in fact, which was a no-cost option that added a roll cage, fire extinguisher, flame retardant seats, harnesses and an electrical cut-out switch. So you'll have to hand over a cheque for £184,950 if you want it. Am I rattled? Not half, especially with the temperature barely above freezing and the roads glistening terrifyingly in the wintery HD sunshine. I decide to take it steady - build up to it slowly.



The cable-operated feel of the gear shift is a bit lacklustre, and the steering takes some adjusting to. After stepping out of the BMW M440i I'd driven up in, the GT2's rim seems super thin - of course, you could be steering with a bent drainpipe and it would feel thinner than a BMW steering wheel - but this is thin by standard comparison. It feels great, though. The steering is quite slow at first and light - bordering on vague around the straight ahead. Part of that is the way any weight drops in and out over the cambers of the road, but the GT2 doesn't tramline like a GT3. It doesn't feel like there's a lot of caster, either, because with less than a quarter-turn of lock on it doesn't seem keen to self-centre. Add a bit more lock and that all changes. The weight builds and remains more consistent, and the hydraulically assisted set-up is very talkative. Once you've acclimatised to it, it inspires confidence.

The front end doesn't bob as much as I remember old 911s doing. And I was anticipating a much softer car - more like a Turbo than a GT3. It feels much more like the latter, though, which is partly because the GT2 sits 20-millimetres lower than the Turbo. The ride can be quite punishing over really broken surfaces, but most of the time it's liveable enough, and, in return, the body feels properly tied down - more than some modern 992s. I asked the guys at Bell & Sport Classic if anything had been changed on the suspension. They told me the hardware is all standard but aren't sure whether the settings are - it's all fully adjustable, of course. Apparently, the previous owner has driven it on track, so I suspect not, and it certainly doesn't feel like the understeery GT2s I've read about.

What about the dreaded snappiness? Well, I didn't get a sense of that, either. Now, I wasn't pushing hard because I respect the car and its status - not to mention the trust implicit in being given something this rare and valuable to drive. But an hour or so into our time together I feel much more at ease with it, and where the road has dried in the sunshine, I'm happy to push it a little. The limited-slip diff certainly feels tightly wound because you can sense the rear moving as you apply the throttle, but only to help the nose into apexes. It's predictable, though, not edgy. Meanwhile, the traction is excellent. Obviously, you can overwhelm it by being an idiot, but judicious use of the throttle creates no issues.



By this point, the road is drying enough in places to give it some. The boosted Mezger motor doesn't have quite the same, crisp throttle response of a GT3 (when you heel-and-toe, for example, it needs a more concerted blip). Time hasn't mellowed is its performance, though, because it still registers as brutal. There's a lot of lag but enough natural torque to mask it and keep the GT2 driveable off boost. But when you hammer the throttle it hammers you right back. It starts off with some old-school expectancy as you can hear pressure building then, at somewhere around 4,000rpm, wham, with a side helping of wallop. And the noise of the flat-six, which until now has been bassy and rich, is almost drowned out by the force of the air rushing through the pipes behind my head.

All of which amounts to a real eye-opener for me. I've never driven a 996 GT2 until now and, to be honest, it wasn't a 911 I particularly aspired to. Ultimately, I favour natural aspiration to forced, which is why I've always been drawn more to GT3s. Yet this GT2 has levelled the playing field. It's still ridiculously quick but far more approachable than I thought it would be, given its unwholesome reputation. Whether that reputation was always built on a myth, or it's just that this car has been set up really well, one thing's for sure: there's nothing inherently wrong with the 996 GT2.

I'm amazed by how approachable it is and how modern it feels in a lot of ways. The shell seems to be really stiff and the ceramic brakes (they were standard on the GT2) are absolutely brilliant: great pedal feel, not too boosted and I'd say as strong as anything current. It means that the GT2 sits in that sweet spot of classic cars: old enough to feel classic without feeling classically crap. So the next lucky owner won't simply be getting a car that looks great, they'll be getting something great to drive, too. I had enormous fun in it. And you needn't take my word for it: just listen to Walter. Not only did Röhrl lap the Nürburgring ten seconds faster in a 996 GT2 than he managed in a 996 GT3, afterwards he said that the GT2 was very forgiving on the limit. So just maybe it's time to forgive it its sins. Although, from where I was sitting, this 996 GT2 is more sinned against than sinner.


Specification | Porsche 911 (996) GT2 Clubsport

Engine: 3,600cc 6-cyl twin-turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 463 @ 5,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 457 @ 3,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.1sec
Top speed: 195mph
Weight: 1,440kg (DIN)
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
On sale: 2001-2005
Price new: £114,900
Price now: £184,950









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Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

103 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).


Dingu

4,184 posts

35 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
A naff German hatchback or a sports car… hmm…

Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

103 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Dingu said:
A naff German hatchback or a sports car… hmm…
Oh I quite agree. But still. Its amazing where 20 years gets you in terms of raw performance.

Chubbyross

4,605 posts

90 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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It’s admittedly a cool thing but I’m just not a fan of turbo lag. I have a 997.2 turbo and the lag is pretty much non-existent. But with older car like this I’m not sure I’d have the patience to wait until things got really melodramatic at 4K.

howardhughes

1,080 posts

209 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
Seriously?? Could you not be any more of a cliché? It's not about comparing speed, nor a Mercedes A45S FFS.

Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,419 posts

103 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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That Tesla driven by an accountant in his fifties is going to smoke you as well.

GT03ROB

13,534 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
That Tesla driven by an accountant in his fifties is going to smoke you as well.
Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
But which would you rather drive??

Venisonpie

3,509 posts

87 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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GT03ROB said:
Honeywell said:
That Tesla driven by an accountant in his fifties is going to smoke you as well.
Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
But which would you rather drive??
He's right though. This was the ultimate Porsche at the time and is very much about outright performance, it has way more than you can use on the road. As such there are far more affordable and accessible ways to more performance if that's your thing leaving this in no mans land. As a track tool then that's different but even then it's a lot of money if you prang it. Plus you still have to look at the 996 interior while using it, yuk.

GT03ROB

13,534 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Venisonpie said:
GT03ROB said:
Honeywell said:
That Tesla driven by an accountant in his fifties is going to smoke you as well.
Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
But which would you rather drive??
He's right though. This was the ultimate Porsche at the time and is very much about outright performance, it has way more than you can use on the road. As such there are far more affordable and accessible ways to more performance if that's your thing leaving this in no mans land. As a track tool then that's different but even then it's a lot of money if you prang it. Plus you still have to look at the 996 interior while using it, yuk.
I get where you are coming from, but the GT cars are generally about a bit more than outright performance.

My Panamera will annihilate my GT3 in a straight line & it will do it with 4 people on board...... but that's really not the point. Even on the open roads a GT car is a far more engaging drive. It may not be for everybody, I understand that they were never truly about outright straightline speed.

Corkys

266 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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So much love. 997 GT2 never hit the spot like the 996.

Who gives a dam about traffic light GP's.

Just look at it.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

239 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
That Tesla driven by an accountant in his fifties is going to smoke you as well.
This will blow away a POS Emira and will be far more exciting to drive.

DeejRC

6,282 posts

87 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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The GT rule of giving up your first born didn’t really apply to the GT2s back in the day. Porsche couldn’t give them away for a while. When they opened the book on the 997GT2 there was approx 0 interest. I was apparently no1 on my OPC books when I put my name down for one and I had no history at all with them.

Remember also that not too long ago at all, these came with a price from somewhere in the 30-40k range.

British Beef

2,314 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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DeejRC said:
The GT rule of giving up your first born didn’t really apply to the GT2s back in the day. Porsche couldn’t give them away for a while. When they opened the book on the 997GT2 there was approx 0 interest. I was apparently no1 on my OPC books when I put my name down for one and I had no history at all with them.

Remember also that not too long ago at all, these came with a price from somewhere in the 30-40k range.
I remember when they were £50k, no that many years ago, I couldnt justify one at that price nevermind 3-4 times more.

anonymous-user

59 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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PH you should do another Porsche right up.....oh you did yawn

Water Fairy

5,695 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
If that bothers you I can only assume you're in your 20s too

seanaldinho

15 posts

95 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Honeywell said:
Slightly annoying when you're burned from the traffic lights by a Mercedes A45S hatchback on a cheap lease deal driven by someone in their 20's (3.9 seconds to 60).
Nah bro you’ll have 2s on him as he’s cold DM’ing birds on Instagram asking if they want to go Nando’s

Stoned

111 posts

134 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Tesla's? A45 S comparisons?
What's happened to Piston heads... Who gives a damn if something is quicker than the car in the article, the Porsche is a wonderful machine which has to be respected in its own right.

Mr Tidy

23,835 posts

132 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Fantastic car, but did they make any that weren't 3 shades of minging black?

Leon R

3,325 posts

101 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Still looks great today but 185k is way more than I would consider spending on a 911 that is almost two decades old.

More of a collectors item than a car at that price.

MDL111

7,104 posts

182 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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always loved these and remember when 50-60k bought a good one. I had a 997 GT2 CS a few years ago for exactly 4 months, put it on its roof on my way to Italy...

Still would love a 996, to my eyes looks so much better than the 997 - especially in black. Maybe one day.

From memory you could buy a 996, 997 GT or RS incl the GT2 RS [the 4.0 being the exception] without any issues when they were new. Even the Carrera GT and later on the 918. Those were the days ...