What would Hamilton have done ?

What would Hamilton have done ?

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Dunit

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643 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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When I say Hamilton I am talking about who he has become now and not back in 2008.
Having watched him from his early days at Rye House with his dad Anthony I really impressed in what a true Champion and utter sportsman he has developed into , And a proper ambassador for the sport of motor racing.
So as the final race comes to a close his major rival is well up the road and cruising to victory despite everything he has tried.
The safety car is out for 5 minutes and you are called in for new tyres and you rejoin the race and then suddenly all the cars between you are pulled out of the way and you are right on his tail and it's obvious he is on worn tyres and the pass is a gimme!
So would Lewis with his great sense of sportsmanship have been truly happy in passing and winning that way?
Even if he did cross the line first once the full story had been explained to him I think he would have handed the Trophy back, It would have been against all the fair play and justice he had stood for over the last year's.
I think the same could be said of some previous champions including the likes of Fangio, Clark , Stewart, Both the Hills and Prost to name but a few !
Not sure Michael and Ayrton, would have given some deep thought first.
Be nice what fellow race drivers think , Preferably have experienced racing themselves and not just 10 laps at some corporate karting event.
And there for fully know whether you were beaten or not?

smn159

13,327 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Dunit said:
When I say Hamilton I am talking about who he has become now and not back in 2008.
Having watched him from his early days at Rye House with his dad Anthony I really impressed in what a true Champion and utter sportsman he has developed into , And a proper ambassador for the sport of motor racing.
So as the final race comes to a close his major rival is well up the road and cruising to victory despite everything he has tried.
The safety car is out for 5 minutes and you are called in for new tyres and you rejoin the race and then suddenly all the cars between you are pulled out of the way and you are right on his tail and it's obvious he is on worn tyres and the pass is a gimme!
So would Lewis with his great sense of sportsmanship have been truly happy in passing and winning that way?
Even if he did cross the line first once the full story had been explained to him I think he would have handed the Trophy back, It would have been against all the fair play and justice he had stood for over the last year's.
I think the same could be said of some previous champions including the likes of Fangio, Clark , Stewart, Both the Hills and Prost to name but a few !
Not sure Michael and Ayrton, would have given some deep thought first.
Be nice what fellow race drivers think , Preferably have experienced racing themselves and not just 10 laps at some corporate karting event.
And there for fully know whether you were beaten or not?
No idea - how many race wins has he handed back previously whenever there has been an element of luck involved?

Sandpit Steve

11,232 posts

80 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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He’s a nice guy, but still a racing driver. You win the race and have the discussions afterwards. But you make damn sure you win the race.

Dunit

Original Poster:

643 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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smn159 said:
Dunit said:
When I say Hamilton I am talking about who he has become now and not back in 2008.
Having watched him from his early days at Rye House with his dad Anthony I really impressed in what a true Champion and utter sportsman he has developed into , And a proper ambassador for the sport of motor racing.
So as the final race comes to a close his major rival is well up the road and cruising to victory despite everything he has tried.
The safety car is out for 5 minutes and you are called in for new tyres and you rejoin the race and then suddenly all the cars between you are pulled out of the way and you are right on his tail and it's obvious he is on worn tyres and the pass is a gimme!
So would Lewis with his great sense of sportsmanship have been truly happy in passing and winning that way?
Even if he did cross the line first once the full story had been explained to him I think he would have handed the Trophy back, It would have been against all the fair play and justice he had stood for over the last year's.
I think the same could be said of some previous champions including the likes of Fangio, Clark , Stewart, Both the Hills and Prost to name but a few !
Not sure Michael and Ayrton, would have given some deep thought first.
Be nice what fellow race drivers think , Preferably have experienced racing themselves and not just 10 laps at some corporate karting event.
And there for fully know whether you were beaten or not?
No idea - how many race wins has he handed back previously whenever there has been an element of lguck involved?
Sadly I have a few times due to poor lap scoring and handed back the trophy . It's the way I was brought up.

Zetec-S

6,216 posts

99 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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No chance he would have handed the trophy back. You play the cards you are dealt, for better or for worse.

mat205125

17,790 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Zetec-S said:
No chance he would have handed the trophy back. You play the cards you are dealt, for better or for worse.
This

Ditto Toto would have had a very different outlook on the outcome

CharlesElliott

2,049 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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I think he would have accepted the win, and the championship, but would also have made the point that he had wished it had finished a different way.

CanAm

9,889 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Would Fangio Moss or Clark have tried to back their team mate into the pack to prevent him from winning the championship?

AJB88

13,213 posts

177 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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He would of done exactly the same as Max.

Siao

1,007 posts

46 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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All of the above.

Very romantic view that he would not accept winning like that. He'd grab that trophy with both hands and hold it tightly

Dunit

Original Poster:

643 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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CanAm said:
Would Fangio Moss or Clark have tried to back their team mate into the pack to prevent him from winning the championship?
He was no fan of Rosberg! But he let Bottas back in front as agreed after his failure to get by the Ferrari and let by Bottas in Austria which may have cost him the title.




Jasandjules

70,420 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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In some respects I would like to think he would have simply not overtaken Max and then explained that the rules were not followed and he would not have won but for that, and he would not feel right to win that way.

mat205125

17,790 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Jasandjules said:
In some respects I would like to think he would have simply not overtaken Max and then explained that the rules were not followed and he would not have won but for that, and he would not feel right to win that way.
No chance in the world that any driver would do that

Any driver that threw away a win and a drivers title by that type of "sportsmanship" would be sacked immediately

housen

2,366 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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smn159 said:
Dunit said:
When I say Hamilton I am talking about who he has become now and not back in 2008.
Having watched him from his early days at Rye House with his dad Anthony I really impressed in what a true Champion and utter sportsman he has developed into , And a proper ambassador for the sport of motor racing.
So as the final race comes to a close his major rival is well up the road and cruising to victory despite everything he has tried.
The safety car is out for 5 minutes and you are called in for new tyres and you rejoin the race and then suddenly all the cars between you are pulled out of the way and you are right on his tail and it's obvious he is on worn tyres and the pass is a gimme!
So would Lewis with his great sense of sportsmanship have been truly happy in passing and winning that way?
Even if he did cross the line first once the full story had been explained to him I think he would have handed the Trophy back, It would have been against all the fair play and justice he had stood for over the last year's.
I think the same could be said of some previous champions including the likes of Fangio, Clark , Stewart, Both the Hills and Prost to name but a few !
Not sure Michael and Ayrton, would have given some deep thought first.
Be nice what fellow race drivers think , Preferably have experienced racing themselves and not just 10 laps at some corporate karting event.
And there for fully know whether you were beaten or not?
No idea - how many race wins has he handed back previously whenever there has been an element of luck involved?
it wasnt luck ffs

how many times !

Muzzer79

10,859 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Dunit said:
Even if he did cross the line first once the full story had been explained to him I think he would have handed the Trophy back, It would have been against all the fair play and justice he had stood for over the last year's.
I think the same could be said of some previous champions including the likes of Fangio, Clark , Stewart, Both the Hills and Prost to name but a few !
Not sure Michael and Ayrton, would have given some deep thought first.
There's no way, absolutely no way, he would have not passed Verstappen or have handed the trophy back.

None of them would - not Hill, Stewart and certainly not Prost. Clark/Fangio was a different era, almost a different sport, but in modern times? Absolutely not.

As a racing driver you are built to win. If you have an opportunity to win, you take it. The rules are created by and administered by someone else.

This is why Verstappen is blameless in terms of the result in Abu Dhabi - the race was contrived by others to allow him to win. That's not his fault.


PH User

22,154 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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He would have done the same as Max did, you can't blame the drivers for who did or didn't win this year.

rider73

3,396 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Dunit said:
CanAm said:
Would Fangio Moss or Clark have tried to back their team mate into the pack to prevent him from winning the championship?
He was no fan of Rosberg! But he let Bottas back in front as agreed after his failure to get by the Ferrari and let by Bottas in Austria which may have cost him the title.
how many times did bottas help Hamilton out in races so Hamilton could fight for the title - swings and roundabouts.

i'm not about to get into (another) war of words on here, but I lost a lot of respect for Hamilton in Rosbergs title winning season - he played a lot of "pushing wide" games with rosberg that forced rosberg into a crash/let him by situation - things that lewis himself critisises max for, and many times he was called "a hard racer" for it, and many times he made up excuses like "brakes are cold" or "tailwind pushed me wide" etc - at least Max just comes out and says "i went for it" - but in fact he was totally over the line with his driving . but as i said - thats in the past - and the question is what would he have done , i think he'd have taken the title and tried to rationalise it the best he could.
... we'd probably have a lot less posts on the F1 forums for sure.

PH User

22,154 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Dunit said:
Sadly I have a few times due to poor lap scoring and handed back the trophy . It's the way I was brought up.
Maybe that's why he's so successful and we all know who he is.

a_dreamer

2,031 posts

43 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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He would have won the race and claimed the championship. And there would have been so much less moaning and bhing about the decisions on here.


PH User

22,154 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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a_dreamer said:
He would have won the race and claimed the championship. And there would have been so much less moaning and bhing about the decisions on here.
Possibly less noise on here about it, but it would have been as equally wrong.